Saturn (In Virgo), Aging And Treating People Like Dogs

February 29th, 2008 @ 1:56 pm by Elsa

Astrology in real life

old man dogTouring all these doctor’s offices (the soldier has 6 appointments in 2 weeks, I have attended 3 of them) has brought up the topic of aging. Most distressing is the body sculpting they are now selling to men as well as women. Is it not okay to just be human?

I feel very strongly about this. I do not want to fall prey and I don’t want the soldier falling prey either. Having a background in sales I recognize as sales pitch when I see one. They make you feel you need fixed. What? Have you not fixed that inch of droop, you slob? Do you not look like a machine?

“I wonder what it’s like to be a dog, walk around naked all the time and no one give a damn,” he said.

“That’s a good example. Why can’t we just get old like dogs? Why do we have to try o be not what we are? Dogs get old. No one expects them to do what young dogs do… we still love them. They lie around more than they used to and we don’t try to do things to their aging bodies. We don’t tell them they suck, why can’t we do the same for people?”

“Don’t know but I do know you and I can’t be naked because if we are, people will flock to see us.”

I laughed because I know he’s right. But what do you think? Why can’t we treat our aging people as well as we treat our aging dogs?

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9 Responses to “Saturn (In Virgo), Aging And Treating People Like Dogs”

1.
Ayla
Ayla

People are scared to get old, because that means a few things: one, they suddenly become “worthless burdens” to a selfish society who forgets the second these people hit retirement that they carried the country on their backs for fifty years. We live in a culture that condemns those who can’t or won’t work.

Two, and this is the easy one, is that people are scared to die. No one wants to be reminded that there will come a time where someone is going to toss them in the ground and forget about them. When an older woman looks in the mirror and sees wrinkles around her mouth, she forgets that they come from laughing and smiling and instantly focuses on the fact that her skin no longer snaps back like it did all those years ago. It reminds her that she’s old. Instead of being proud of the life that led to those wrinkles, she’s scared her life is coming to a close.

And three: we live in a society ruled by corporations, where the goal is to sell dissatisfaction before they ever move a single product. If people were happy with themselves and what they had, no one would buy anything unless they had to. That’s no good!

I read an ethnography about the Ju\’hoansi people, a tribe of hunters and gatherers in Africa. In their culture, the elderly and the sick EXPECTED to be taken care of. They didn’t care they were being “burdens.” They didn’t feel like they were worthless. It was a tribal obligation to take care of the people who needed care. It was the job of the family to do it, but if the family couldn’t (or they had no family), the rest of the tribe would do it without complaint. Elders were respected, not reviled.

That changed when the Ju\’hoansi went from hunter/gatherer/nomadic to herder/farmer/sedentary. They started casting their elders out. Families started turning their aging parents away when they asked for help. Interesting, isn’t it, what a sense of personal entitlement can do to an entire culture?

 
2.
Grace
Grace

Ooh right on Ayla (the whole thing).

 
3.
Mari
Mari

We are bombarded from all sides 24/7 with messages that society idealizes the thin, young and beautiful. Studies show that after women flip through fashion mags, generally, they are depressed. I mean, really, they are using young teens if not adolescents now in fashion ads. Who wouldn’t feel like an old, fat hag?

On Yahoo’s home page today, they had a link to the “25 Hottest Stars under 25″, always they show the most current youngest hottest celebs. I am really hoping that Pluto in Cap, along the way of shaking up governments and other structures, kicks some media ass. Capricorn rules old age and growing old gracefully, right?

Ayla,, are there any cultures left in which Elders are given their due respect? And consulted for their wisdom and experience? I like what R. Ohotto said about letting your wrinkles show where you have been and what you have learned.

 
4.
ewinbee
ewinbee

I don’t know about the rest of you, but…

I’m perfectly fine with other people getting old.

Just not ME.

:)

Sort of like other people are allowed to be poor, and fail at things, and be unattractive, and have bad skin. Ya know? I love them just fine that way. But moi? The star of my own personal movie? The only person I ever get to be? The one human being who will never leave me, and who I have to hang around with no matter what?

I have higher standards for her than for just anybody. If she’s ugly, I have to look at it every day. And if she’s poor, it’s me who suffers. And if she gets old, I’m the one who has to be look in the mirror and wonder, “Did I live enough?”

I hope most days that I can get used to the idea before I actually GET there. But… I’m not okay with it. It’s… kinda unenlightened of me.

 
5.
wyrdling
wyrdling

when culture equates image with value, and death as the final crash in the market, aging really knocks into your perceived bottom line.

uhm. *tongue in cheek* kind of.

 
6.
Pepper
Pepper

The free and easy peddling of “plastic” surgery (non-essential mostly)disturbs me greatly. I’ve noted on more than one occasion how folks tend to gloss over the darkside of cosmetic surgery. In fact, a distant family member recently experienced a series of mini stokes when having lipo work done on her stomach. This is a woman of 70 years of age. How disturbing is that!

 
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Ayla
Ayla

Mari–Off the top of my head, American Indians have done very well when it comes to keeping with their old traditions. I spent a short time with my grandmother on a Navajo reservation and one of the first things I noticed was that the elders in general commanded a great deal of respect.

 
8.
Denise
Denise

I went down the rabbit hole for quite a few years ..i do not want to lose those character lines..nor do i want to lose the smile lines when i came out!!

 
9.
kashmiri
kashmiri

I’m have no respect for people who peddle “body sculpting” or whatever they call it. None.

 


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