Do Loud, Aggressive People Vex The Spirit? I Asked Mercury In Aries
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Randamandar writes:
“From Desiderata- ‘Avoid loud and aggressive people as they are a vexation to the spirit.’
I can hear the Soldier now, You don’t know the meaning of vexation, I’ll show you vexation.”
I called him.
“What do you think of this?” I asked, reading him the quote.
“Well I think that those who are weak, mindless, spineless and never question authority are a vexation to the spirit. What do you think, P? What do people like that do for the spirit? I think I have a lot of spirit and I am loud, aggressive and spirited. Where is that quote from?”
“The Desiderata.”
“That poem they found in a church in the 1600’s? Well that’s one of my favorite writings. I don’t recall that part. But anyway, you have to take that in it’s entirety. They are probably talking about boisterous bar types. Blow hards. You know the type. So that’s my interpretaion of that. That’s a different kind of loud and aggressive, I’d say. What do you think happened with that? The person wrote it and thought it was nothing?”
“Yep, probably wrote it and thought it was nothing…”
Do you think loud and aggressive people vex the spirit?Â
14 Responses to “Do Loud, Aggressive People Vex The Spirit? I Asked Mercury In Aries”
Right on wyrdling! I have met people like that. The blow hards that the Soldier talks about. One of them married my sister in law despite many misgivings and warnings from others. He was absolutley one of the worst fathers of all time.
Definitely a lounge lizard and blow hard!
‘That is a different kind of loud and aggressive.’ an excellent quote from a man of substance!, Our Soldier.
Yes, absolutely.
Two reasons why this can be okay:
a) Almost everybody has a loud and aggressive side. If you are incapable of being quiet, you’re not only a vexation to the spirit, you’re a waste of space… not merely that, but a particularly offensive waste of space, because as the enormous personality that you are, you’re taking up far more emotional space than anybody else around you. But it’s a rare person who’s born with no volume switch at all. And people who have moments of BIGNESS can be exhilirating.
b) There are plenty of times that call for a little helpful vexation. Sometimes people need stirring to action, or dressing down. There are plenty of hellish places and situations in this world, where a loud and aggressive person is not only desired, but essential.
But I’ve been trapped for years in a cage with such a person, and it’s hard to think of anything worse than the way he used nothing more than the sheer force of his energy and volume to slowly crush the people around him.
It’s power. You either keep it under control, take it out somewhere where it will be useful, or yes… you make people miserable with it.
Another thought. Fast and loose. If I was being loud and aggressive [and I admit, I am capable of that.] and someone said to me, Avoid loud and aggressive people as they are vexations to the spirit, or more likely asked me to tone it down or chill out, I might say, Vexation to the spirit, I will show you Vexation of the Spirit! I will kick your ass with my vexation. It would be a joke, but I would get their point and I would likely tone it down.
As a loud and aggressive person, is there any other way to communicate my spirit?
I’ve swung from loud to silent. I’ve been thanked for my ability to bolster the spirit of others through my enthusiasm (usually Geminis, oh well)!
I’ve been slagged off for being too loud (some people find it really annoying, go figure).
I’m coming back towards the middle. I’ve eliminated the people who cut me down for being myself and I’m more accepting of myself now. My Sun/Saturn square took hit after hit for a few years. Guess what? I’m loud!
Only if one lets the loud and agressive vex ones spirit. Obviously there will be conflict of controversy in the same room as the “loud and agressive” but why give them the power to vex spirit? Leave! Say goodbye or just be ok with it.
Wondering why the Aries symbol has been singled out here because there are good cross section of “louds” across the whole zodiac. I work in anger management therapy for children and teenagers etc and previously an intellectually “loud agressive” one might say. I know that the force has changed in me now, thanks to Obe one kanobe.
kingsley
I have been called loud MANY MANY times by people who are insecure with themselves. There is nothing wrong with being loud, it’s being loud in combination with being uncaring, tactless or egotistical that is a vexation to the spirit. If you have something valuable to say the louder the better! If you’re lame or boring, stfu.
Kingsley - I singled our Aries because the original comment assumed his response so I wanted to go straight to the source and get his real response. He actually made your point at well. I think I get to decide what vexes my spirit!
HELL NO!! : D
Do you think loud and aggressive people vex the spirit?
Of course we do! How the hell is anything supposed to get done otherwise?
max
['Don't try this at home.']
Some spirits are much too complacent and could use a good vexing.
The city where I live is loud and aggressive and it does vex my spirit.
Now, on a more personal note, if my soon-to-be-ex-boyfriend were a little more loud and aggressive, it would be less frustrating than the cold and silent behavior (which I realize is what I do and commented about on another post!)
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