Never Mind “People” - Do *You Change?

18 Responses to “Never Mind “People” - Do *You Change?”

1. joana says on 1/26/08 at 4:58 pm:
   

   I “had Libra” on the last post, but on this one I can say it with more assurance: NO.
   I may have changed to other people but I think I only became more of myself. (I just had a Pluto-Sun transit).
   But I wish I did! I want to (want to) change.

2. Tam says on 1/26/08 at 5:55 pm:
   

   “you’d be a fool to think I am not capable” LOL I believe ya!

   Yes I have changed. I have seen some of my childhood friends change, but some of them haven’t changed at all.

3. wyrdling says on 1/26/08 at 5:59 pm:
   

   yes.
   but it’s more like finding more effective ways of being who i am.
   so, also, no.
   but yes

4. Becca says on 1/26/08 at 6:29 pm:
   

   I voted for Libra in the poll, but I don’t think I’ve changed much. I’ve grown into myself a little, is all.

5. moonpluto says on 1/26/08 at 7:20 pm:
   

   Changed? Oh yes, absolutely. Pluto in my 1st house assures the transformation…

6. Avery says on 1/26/08 at 7:38 pm:
   

   I have changed wholesale. I had a severe anger management problem as a kid/young adult that made me take out my rage physically on people and objects (Mars in Scorpio, retro in the 8th). I was afraid to become a parent because I was certain I would abuse my kid. Now I’m passionately nonviolent and I’ve never laid a hand on my daughter or anyone else in many years, haven’t thrown or shot anything, nor do I ream my daughter or others with sarcasm (my other former weapon of choice).

   I used to be a drug addict and promiscuous. Now, I’m clean going on fourteen years and only have sex within a committed relationship. I can even drink responsibly with no problem at all.

   I used to hate women and especially my mother. Now I feel a kinship with them, even and especially my mother.

   I used to cut myself. Now I take really good care of my body through nutrition and exercise, and I wouldn’t think of harming myself.

   I used to hate the fact that I’m stuck on this planet with all of these idiots. I used to feel like an outsider, an alien, that I didn’t understand anyone nor did I feel understood. Now I know that though we’re different (and I’m certainly different - Aquarius rising), we’re all made of the same stuff, and our troubles are one and the same. I’m finally one of the family.

   I’m by no means perfect, but I marvel at how far I’ve come through grace. Somebody up there loves me. I’m committed to loving back.

   If I can make it through the hell that I created for myself and transform it all into something beautiful and meaningful, so can anyone else.

7. shell says on 1/26/08 at 7:50 pm:
   

   Wow Avery, that is wonderful.

   It took having a child to change me immensely, all for the better. I guess it’s just called “growing up”, but some people do it and some people don’t. But yes, knowing how much I’ve changed inside makes me believe that others can too.

8. Nampambulisti says on 1/26/08 at 8:01 pm:
   

   I change on the surface. I’ve been told “you’ve changed” by someone who knew me less than six weeks!
   But below the surface, the footprint is the same, the patterns are the same, the basic thing is the same.
   I think that despite all the lessons we learn, if we think we become jaded to one thing or another, or bitter or whatever - we’re still the same as we were before things started happening to us, before we learned what we learned that give us our life experience.

9. Alma says on 1/26/08 at 8:50 pm:
   

   People can change, if they work at it, and if they are lucky. I used to get high a lot, heroin to be precise, but I’ve been clean for the past ten years. I did a lot of shady things to get drugs. I stole from my friends, my family, and from strangers. I slept with people for money. Every relationship I had was a transaction. I had a lot of contempt for men. Like Avery, I had major anger issues. I cut myself. I set fires. (Mars opposition Uranus).
   But I worked hard, and I was lucky enough to have a supportive family and a great psychiatrist. I am changed. I have to give other people the benefit of believing they can change, because nobody could have believed how far I’ve come.

10. Randamandar says on 1/26/08 at 9:36 pm:
    

    Sometimes it takes an extraordinary strength of will to change. Sometimes people choose not to change. Events in one’s life can prompt you to change. Were these events preordained at your birth by the placements of planets in relation to the earth? Do we choose our parents? Are we given a roadmap when we are born? What if we take the road less travelled? Does our life turn out differently? Are there thousands of different routes that we could take, each one with a different outcome.

    I am reminded of a quote by Victor Frankl from ‘Man’s search for meaning’

    ‘The last of human freedoms is the ability to choose our attitude in any given circumstance.’

    I believe that in every moment of our life we have the ability to choose and that each choice can lead to different tomorrow.

11. tinkerer says on 1/27/08 at 1:46 am:
    

    I know I have *definitely* changed as my life has progressed!

    I wonder…even tho’ I’m cardinal sun/asc. by sign, most of my chart is in mutable by both sign AND house. I have almost no fixed at all. So maybe I’m more inclined to change than, say, a person with a bunch of planets in fixed signs & houses?

12. wyoTess says on 1/27/08 at 6:05 am:
    

    I would say yes but like Nampa up there, the footprint is the same.

13. Angela says on 1/27/08 at 7:53 am:
    

    Well, some people don’t “need” to change - they’re just fine the way they are. I, on the other hand, have needed to change and I have. Actually, I’m constantly changing - looking for the best fit, the most compassionate way to be here.

14. Shannon says on 1/27/08 at 1:33 pm:
    

    A lot about me changes, but the core of Who I Am … not so much.

15. Dina says on 1/27/08 at 7:19 pm:
    

    “this blog is nothing but a bar”

    

    I think it’s unscientific to say that people don’t change. No matter what we think about time, people grow and evolve, their brains and brain chemistry changes. And their attitudes evolve. As to personality, maybe certain habits and ideas stay the same, but even “becoming more yourself” is evolution. The things you think and write about change. Even if it seems like their personality doesn’t change, other parts of them change on various levels. Plus experiences shape their personality. Even in the expression “fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on you.” Even the way people refuse to change after a painful experience is a change since it may have to do with stagnation or denial.

16. Dina says on 1/27/08 at 7:23 pm:
    

    As to whether I change, I think I have changed a lot with regards to social aptitude and have also become a hot mess. I don’t know. Time will tell.

17. goddess says on 1/27/08 at 10:24 pm:
    

    thats a hard question. some ways, no, i’m still the same person, core. but in lots of ways, yes.

    i used to hide every way i could. behind pillows, walls, and big tshirts. i avoided people and didn’t say what i thought and tried to be invisible. i never felt good enough or acceptable except with my inner core group.

    then i had a pluto transit and some big changes in my life. and i came out in the sun.

    and now i chat up all the store clerks and dye my hair pink and purple. and won’t shut up. sometimes, i will feel some of the old me, but mostly, it’s gone.

18. Randamandar says on 1/28/08 at 7:23 am:
    

    I enjoyed your comment goddess! Especially that you have become more outgoing and mix things up with your hair. You may never have a bad hairday again.

    I have forced myself to be more outgoing too, which is apparently what I need to do with a Virgo North Node.

    Like some of the other’s my core, essence soul has not changed. Otherwise I have experienced constant change.

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