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Saturn In Virgo: Learn To Communicate - Tips From The Outer Rim
Astrology in real life
I broke out the calculator today and determined I am going through an ordeal less than 1/10 of 1% of the population will ever face. Consequently there is no advice. I simply have to operate on instinct, pretty much adapting like the Borg to whatever I encounter.
One thing I have found via the soldier is that what is learned way out at the rim of life is completely applicable to the every day so here are some tips for Saturn in Virgo around effective communication in intense situations or negotiations.
First as I mentioned before you want to be economical with your words. (Blathering Allowed, But Not Welcome) At the beginning of this fiasco I was blathering and storytelling and HQ helped me to reign myself in, going as far in the early stages to condense ramblings into a concise bulleted list… I got the point.
Secondly, there are times you really want a man’s voice if you can find one. When you go in as a single mother, the lowliest of the low you are very apt to be met with disdain and shown very little respect, even (or perhaps especially) if you are dealing with another woman. If you can’t get an actual man to speak for you, then for Godsakes if you want someone to hear you, then lower your voice an octave and “talk low and slow like John Wayne”. This tip courtesy some old man I knew when I was 19 and he was right.
Last, do your work and while you’re at it, do theirs too if the thing is important. This because people are lazy. They tend to stand around waiting for the other person to do the thing or show up expecting to be taken care of, so if you go into these situations somewhat studied you will be met with shock, intense gratitude, instantaneous respect. Further, most will be willing to extend themselves on your behalf seeing as you are respecting rather than wasting their time with your unedited drivel.
These are my tips. Contribute if you can.

7 Responses to “Saturn In Virgo: Learn To Communicate - Tips From The Outer Rim”
Humility has been a big part of Saturn in Virgo that I have noticed. Real humility, the kind that gets backed up with 120% effort and work ethic, like Heather said. My Virgo prof asked me why I needed to knock everybody else down to succeed. (Whoa!)
Also helping others in a spirit of just plain *helping* is a good way to practice observance of Saturn in Virgo. The Libra in me enjoys this part of the dynamic!
Shaina - Whoa, is right. But I bet he cured you. And I bet for the rest of your life when you see someone uncured of this you’re thank your lucky stars for that guy. Good luck!
I’m learning with Saturn in Virgo that there are shortcuts to be learned (arranging to have one’s tax benefits directly deposited into the bank account, for example) but for some things there are no shortcuts. There’s work to do!
No jacking off at school and then complaining about less than stellar grades.
No eating garbage and then complaining about feeling bloated.
No getting stoned and claiming enlightenment.
No shutting oneself off from the world and then crying from loneliness.
No sitting on one’s ass, hoping someone can do this work for you!
To add to point #2, don’t smile too much. It’s a display that says, “I’m harmless” and doesn’t command respect when you’re female, esp if young.
isthmus - great point and I have an extreme problem *not* smiling. Matter of fact I just made a video (loading now) and I am talking about all this intense stuff.. smiling in places. I guess this must be why people can’t hear me so well, until and unless I hit them with a 10 ton crane in the head.
Elsa- yup! Didn’t know I was doing it, and I’m always grateful when someone points out such a thing w/o doing it to wound.
Oh and it was a she-professor. ![]()
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I agree whole heartedly. I would add that when you go in studied, still maintain some humility, as arrogance will be met with defensiveness. I made that mistake today with one of the doctor’s I’m dealing with on my son’s behalf. I was tired and frustrated and didn’t bother with nicities and I probably should have as I got what I needed, and more importantly my kid needed, but I could tell he was a bit annoyed.
And thanks again Elsa, your road map is helping me a great deal right now. I’m not on the outer rim, but I’m definitely not in Kansas right now. I haven’t the words or the energy to try to explain to my friends and family, so I know what you are doing now takes a tremendous amount of strength and endurance. Thanks for throwing out lifelines when you don’t really have to, it is definitely helping keep me afloat.