Dec
15

Astrology And Power Struggles In Relationship

Astrology in real life

houdiniThe soldier thinks about (relationship) things and believes these subjects to be deep and so vast it will take the rest of our lives to understand them between us. I don’t argue this. I figure he is probably right and last night he picked a corner of one of the things he wonders about and threw it out to be chewed on.

Unfortunately I could not chew for long because although his question was interesting I don’t think it is applicable to us at all. Basically he wanted to know what we would do if we got into an argument we could not resolve. Say I have one position and he has another and we just can’t come to agreement. He wanted to know if I would consider deferring to an outside source to resolve the problem.

Now in his case, I know he means the church. He would defer to whatever his faith supported which I suppose means, a priest or some other religious authority would tell us what was right and we would agree to abide by it. So how do you feel about that, Elsa?

I had to tell him I had no way of knowing how I felt about that because I could not imagine the circumstance ever arising.

“But what if it did?”

“I don’t know. I have to be able to imagine it arising and I cannot. This is not something that could happen to me. As you know my reality morphs every day. So we’re pissed, we go to sleep and when I wake up everything will have shifted. Things are moving all the time. The Moon moves! So we go to sleep pissed off then wake up, someone’s foot touches someone else’s and at that point we can’t remember what we were so pissed off about or care about it… this has happened to us a million times.”

“Well I hope it would go like that but what if it didn’t? What would we do if we could not resolve a problem?”

I told him I thought all our problems stemmed from difficulty communicating.

houdini“You are talking about a power struggle and we’ve never had one. We have never been in a power struggle in our lives. What happens is I get murderously pissed because I can’t or won’t or don’t have the ability to communicate things to you and eventually I explode in frustration and want to get away. So I get away and then we come back together, usually in a hour or five or ten, and we are always greatly relieved the minute we do. No one ever stays pissed or holds a grudge. I just don’t think we have the ability to get into the situation you are describing. Power struggles are for people who want to control and dominate the other person. Neither of us are like that… well I’m not like that for sure. The last thing I want is for someone to cave to my will. Don’ tie a balloon on your nose for me! Further, I just don’t have the ability to go to sleep in one mood and wake up the same way. So really you want to know what we are going to do if we are both holding a line when I damned well I won’t and can’t hold a line. I take the bullet, remember?” (The Thin Red Line and A Girl Can’t Die In Peace)
He went off to think and I chock this up to Neptune of course. Escape is the route!

Do you find yourself prone to power struggles? Can you see the tendency in your chart?

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7 Responses to “Astrology And Power Struggles In Relationship”

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Valkyrie
Valkyrie

I’ve been prone to caving in to keep the peace (Libra 5th house with Neptune) and not challenging the other person enough. Our real problems don’t emerge till later, when we find we’ve been deluding ourselves or wasting our time with someone who wasn’t right for us (Mars/Venus squ Neptune). I have finally gained respect for a good fight. Uproots problems for inspection, and makes people solve them or move on.

I grew up in a household where my mother seemed to pick fights constantly with my father, who tried desperately to avoid them. I could always see my dad’s side in this, but now I’m starting to see my mom’s. Hard to get forward movement if the other person won’t engage with a problem.

 
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Neith
Neith

With a natal Mars in Scorpio square Pluto in Leo, I am very aware of power struggles anywhere in my vicinity. However, Pluto transiting over my Mars cured me of participating in them - too much pain & frustration and the realization that ultimately others will do what they feel they need to do, and there was NOTHING i could do about it!! That’s not to say it won’t work for someone else but my lesson was essentially “Mind my own damn business!

 
3.
Piya
Piya

I can relate a lot to what Valkyrie said, and I think that I’ve finally found someone with whom I can have a good fight with, somebody who can listen to what I’m saying (because I’ve always been good at listening to what other people say).

Disagreements can be good, they keep things interesting, active. I always wanted space to be me, and I might have found it.

 
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kashmiri
kashmiri

My Mars/South Node (3rd) opposed Pluto/North Node (9th) taught me that I don’t need to engage in power struggles anymore. (Of course, I still do–I’m human!)
The SN/Mars may instigate them, but the NN/Pluto just incinerates them. If I do win a power struggle, it’s a bitter victory.

Interestingly, my Mom (Aries) fought to the death while my Dad (Libra) taught me there was more strength in laying down arms and walking away.
However, my Dad was in the army, the circus, and then an armed guard at a maximum security prison before he learned his lessons of laying down arms.

 
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wyrdling
wyrdling

uhm yes. and yes. I’ve got that venus/pluto thing doing the tango.
And pisces mars has a bad habit of caving in until it’s pushed too far (and blows up) or playing the passive aggressive game. Modeled after my father’s conflict style, I guess. And I’ve been trying to cure myself of those negative expressions of it for a long time.
But I’ve learned a lot about boundaries around what I can ask and what I am willing to let others ask of me, and to clear out my hot button topics so I’m less naive but… it’s all work, and the work keeps coming. Probably always will, but it gets easier.

I have no patience for power games any more. If I realize someone is attempting to pull me into one of those games I’ll retreat and find some better avenue for expression. Unless I am forced to engage and then I will. But by my rules. Pretty much as long as I can respect myself, I’m fine, even if things don’t turn out the way I’d like.

 
6.
Z
Z

I occasionally get into power struggles cos i spout opinions that others dont always agree with (nor me always, sometimes i just like to offer an alternative perspective..merc/uranus). I quite enjoy a debate but if it starts turning heavy i’ll back off, healthy debate fine, emotional scenes woh, how’d that happen. My bf and i argue quite alot but i think we both enjoy the battle so it not really a struggle for power, more a struggle to get understood which eventually (so far at least) leads to growth and more understanding. My problem is being right all the time which he just cant handle :D

 
7.
Lis
Lis

YES.

A big fat huge YES.

There’s a definite synastry pattern with the people I’m always fighting with. One’s Mercury squares/opposes the other’s Mars.

The biggest power struggles involve the Moon thrown in for good measure.

Examples:

My husband. He has a Mercury/Moon opposition. My Sun/Mars in Leo conjuncts his Moon and opposes his Mercury.

I think we got together because we like verbal sparring. ;)

Guy with a Capricorn Mercury/Libra Mars square, with my Moon conjunct his Mars.

Another guy with a Moon/Mars conjunction in Capricorn, square an Aries Mercury…and my Libra Moon hits this sore spot in his chart.

Many other people with their Mars squaring/opposing my Virgo Mercury. Includes a couple of my kids. ;)

 


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