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Open Question: Pisces Woman Struggles With Message Board Bully
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Dear Elsa
I’ve had some issues with bullies since as far back as grade school and after running into the same kinds of situations over and over again I am trying to figure out how to best deal with them.
Until a few years ago I dealt with bullies almost in every case by avoiding them and ignoring them, which isn’t always easy. More recently however I have been forced to stand up for myself. For example about a year or so ago I had to stand up to a boss who threatened to fire me if I didn’t agree to do illegal things. Standing up for myself sometimes seems to work out but often is very stressful and sometimes makes things worse.
Most recently for instance I had a run in on a forum that I have frequented for over a year with a moderator who antagonized me publicly. I didn’t break any rules or do anything rude, she just likes to pick fights with people and this time I stood my ground. It ended up upsetting me so much that I’m not going back even though I once found a lot of enjoyment there.
I’ve come to understand that the bullies I’ve been encountering are not just picking on me alone, they are targeting lots of people over and over. I think that some people just love drama and some people love power.
I’m trying to learn from this and grow so that I don’t have to keep dealing with the same things again and again. I’m all about changing how I react to solve problems. Can you advise me?
Pisces
United States
Anyone?

23 Responses to “Open Question: Pisces Woman Struggles With Message Board Bully”
Wow! Pisces Mercury opposed Leo Mars…well, even if you’re playing nice, people are going to see a Lion out of her cage and are going to want to shoot arrows at you! Time to make it their problem…as an old friend used to say “Why should I be embarrassed that you’re being an asshole?”
A Leo North Node with a problem of being bullied, indicates to me that you haven’t embraced fully the proud, self-assured (Leo) energies within yourself.
You not only have a right to expressed your opinions, you have the right to walk away from uncontrollable people….bullies usually are.
Now, I have had a HUGE problem being bullied, and I have met more than one person who has decided to hate me without so much as hearing one word come out of my mouth. Then they hate me even more when that one word escapes…then another, and another and another word comes out and my fate is sealed!
It finally took understanding that as long as I reacted to bullies n the same way, the problem of being bullied would grow in intensity and urgency until I finally accepted this: ‘Hey man, I have an idea–why don’t you leave me the hell alone!’
I, too, would just run/escape/avoid. I have Mars opposed Pluto, so anger can feel terrifying, better to just pretend it isn’t there. Hm, not going to work.
Embrace your fire-y Leo Mars. Accept it’s okay to disagree with people, and it’s MORE than okay to ask someone ‘Why are you acting in this way? It makes me feel extremely uncomfortable.”
You’re a lion, baby! No shame!
The boss was a man in that case, but I’ve had female bosses and just plain co-workers try to bully me as well. It’s an on-going thing.
Thank you for the advice, kashmiri! And wow, that’s a great comparison. “A lion out of it’s cage,” that’s weirdly appropriate because sometimes it seems like people who are being bullies me are afraid of me, but that reaction just doesn’t make any sense to me.
I’m going to preface this comment w/the caveat that I could be wrong, and this is more suggestion than advice. While no one deserves to be dumped on, one might shift the focus from reaction to preemption. Perhaps others are perceiving Pisces as a weak individual?
Cancer ASC, chart ruler in detriment/Capricorn and 6th. Moon-Venus trine suggests popularity w/others but b/c of moon’s poor placement, perhaps the signal here is also of inhibition, subordination, a readiness to please. Also, Pisces, if you’re male, this is esp challenging b/c Cancer is heavily gendered as feminine in modern society and to have sun/ASC in the sign is somewhat emasculating
Pisces sun opposing Saturn (7th house ruler), squared by Neptune. A configuration that again, indicates inhibition, weak boundaries, even pessimism. I get the sense of someone expecting the worst, waiting for the other shoe to drop.
However, Mars-Jupiter conjunction in Virgo trining Venus is very charming and charismatic! I would use those planets to my advantage. Ppl may be intimidated by the creative/sexual energy represented in those planets but then I would ask myself: why are they trying to steal this from me? What am I doing that makes them think they can get away with it?
Sad reality in the U.S. - if people are serious, can’t put on a convincing facade, and express ambivalence they tend to be attacked. This is because they want others to sort of perform like caricatures / cartoon figures in their lives. They hate genuine, it reminds them of how fake they are. That’s probably your ‘issue’ which is really rather their issue or a cultural issue: you sound really transparent. When you’re unsure of something it shows, when you’re afraid it shows, that you’re a little more refined than they are shows. I can relate, I have a strong 12th house. I feel I’d be happier in a place that respects subtlety - the feminine - the receptive - like, say, another country.
isthmus said: “Cancer ASC, chart ruler in detriment/Capricorn and 6th. Moon-Venus trine suggests popularity w/others but b/c of moon’s poor placement, perhaps the signal here is also of inhibition, subordination, a readiness to please.”
And the words BODY LANGUAGE popped up. I don’t know beans about reading your chart but I have one son who imparts a weak body language and I can’t convince him that his body is talking even when he isn’t.
I’m still working with him so he can see what I’m saying. It’s little things really, the way one arm is crossed over all timid across the body, humped up shoulders, the way he stand with his head tilted to the side that give him away to the crowd as one who is weaker and might be picked on and it does happen rather consistently.
What would happen Picses if you had a friend videotape you and you work together to see if your body is saying things even when your lips aren’t moving?
Even w/o a friend to help - could you begin to take note of how you sit, walk, avoid, with the bullies in your life the next time a confrontation occurs?
Oops, I guess that won’t work if it’s an online relationship, huh?? Duhhhhhh!!! Sorry.
I’m a female FYI
t-carat - I think that’s a very good point about fake being unnerved by genuine. I do tend to be pretty transparent. Most of the time the people who are trying to bully do seem to be either two-faced or very fake. That’s very insightful. However I don’t think I want to move to a different country
dreasAreality - I do indeed tilt my head a lot and cross my arms. I don’t really want to change that though. I’ve been complimented on it.
nekoi - I don’t know about that. I think I make my boundaries pretty damn strong. But I will try to project my Leo-ness from now on.
But why would it be acceptable to attack others with ‘weaker body language’? The primate humans need to be put in their place - beneath the human humans. ![]()
It isn’t acceptable. I’m trying to help my son not come across as a victim waiting to happen or to put it another way to be the one who has the proverbial “Kick Me” sign tattooed on his forehead or back without knowing it.
Pisces, did you notice the google ads over to the right about cyberbullies?
All I see is an ADT Safewatch ad. Nothing about bullies. Maybe I should do a search?
I want to share this with you Pisces, may be it could be useful. Once I started experiencing and ” getting connected ” with the plutonian energy trough my intuition, while my daily walk. What happened traumatized me: the people did not see me, practically they were knocking down me, on the other hand several persons shouted nasty things (generally nobody shouts anything to me!) I have experimented with another energies too. I think you should to embrace that challenge and ‘to connect’ with mars energy. I you are enough sensitive you could to feel the aspects too (this moment mars is squared to venus) Obiously you need to work that mars because the north node.
Do I spy Mars retrograde in your chart?My mom has this and has also had bully issues.I have seen her try to make a joke of the bullying,ignore the bullying,make-nice with someone who is incapable of making nice,and just general tip-toeing around the issue of her own power altogether.I have encouraged her to ‘be a man’ and just call the bully on it right off the bat.Take a breath,look ‘em straight in the eye and say ‘Wow.You’re a bully’ or ‘Wow.You are trying to bully me into…and it’s not going to work so knock it off.”.We all see those bullies out there.This is not about them,this is about how you react to them.You can do this,it’s just discipline.
I can’t see Chiron in this chart, but you are telling a story of your issues with bullies back in grade school, and following the thread of that particular experience to your present life, where you said no to an authority figure and had the very common experience of some weird thing happening involving Hive Mind and flame wars.
That kind of thing happens all the time. I assure you you are not a special or specific target and you probably do not have a “kick me” sign scrawled across your inner essence.
But you do have a wounding memory from childhood that forms your experience today. I can’t see Chiron but I do see Saturn retrograding in the third house. That can mean a lot of things but retrograde to me means a time warp in consciousness. In the third house, this is your closest environment, the neighborhood in which you grew up, your brothers and sisters. Something with Dad — gone or completely terrifying or impossible to contact for help. Which leaves you alone to fight for yourself.
“Bullies” might be “Dad”. Saturn here classically also means a stutter or some other speech or hearing impediment, or something that frustrates natural expression to your childhood peers. And whatever thoughts you formed around that experience about yourself are what you’re carrying into these new experiences.
I hear something like — ” There’s something about me specifically that draws experiences with bullies”. ” I have a hard time standing up for myself.” ” What is it about me that makes these things always happen? ”
I think it might help to separate your dream/remembered reality from the here and now. Whatever happened in grade school happens to a lot of kids. Some people even grow up *feeling* bullied even though an outside observer, even participants, wouldn’t have judged that to be the case. However, if you felt abandoned for other reasons: if you needed that environment as a child to replace something else that was wrong in your world and it did not, then there was an initial wounding that will carry into any situation your soul judges to be the same.
My advice is: look at things as they are now. People are assholes all over the internet. It really wasn’t personal, those “people” don’t know you. Your slimy boss was a slimy boss before you met him. You’re going to meet more assholes and slimy bosses. We *all* are.
We create reality around what we pay attention to, and you’re paying attention to the idea of being bullied for a reason. The reason is: that stirred up subconscious memory wants to come out and be healed and realized as a *past* event, not a *present* event. In the *past* some bad things happened. Recently some other stressful things happened. They’re not the same things at all, but your subconscious can’t tell the difference.
By the way — personally I’ve found that around the time I ended up in a pissing fight with the queen bee was about time for me to leave anyway.
Hi, everybody!
I think, that this is a great forum. Very intresting and useful.
But I can’t find the search function, cause I want faster find the topics that could be intresting for me to express my opinion…
Please help me with search function on this forum!
my wife is not faithful to me, she doesn’t know that I know about it. waht should I do?
Hello. I’m new here but I realy want to ask you…
We’ve all gone through this phase in life, sometimes more often than others. But haven’t you ever asked yourself, “Why am I on this earth”? What am I here for? Exactly just what is your purpose in life?
P.S. Sorry If wrong section!
Pisces said “[...] sometimes it seems like people who are being bullies me are afraid of me, but that reaction just doesn’t make any sense to me”.
A-haaa!;) Bullies are bullies because they ARE afraid!;) Avoid, block, meet with compassion and/or find allies:)
My advice isn’t very good, though - have never been bullied myself. But I do get stabbed in the back an awful lot. Which is understandable; I’m very eloquent when I’m upset! Maybe you should try that, if you can take backstabbing. They’re wrong, so they don’t matter. *lol*
(Says Mercury, Venus and Mars conjunct Pluto in Libra).
Mumbai police have defused two bombs found in a bag at the train station attacked by terrorists last week.
Officers called the bomb squad after finding a suspicious-looking bag while searching 150 pieces of luggage at Chhatrapati Shivaji station. Two bombs of 4kg were found inside and defused, police said.
God! what are these guys doing? another 911?
Nothing seems to be easier than seeing someone whom you can help but not helping.
I suggest we start giving it a try. Give love to the ones that need it.
God will appreciate it.
I am not as educated on astrology as many others are. But I am a pisces with a cancer rising. Esp when I was younger, people are really deceived by the cancer rising. They mistakenly think that I am a pushover. I am sensitive, empathetic, and extremely tolerant. But I am not a push over.
But maybe we should be looking at the moderator’s chart. I find it amazing how people act on the internet. Women especially are more willing to show their bullying side.
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Anyone?
That’s not really fair, Elsa, droppin’ grenades like that.
Most recently for instance I had a run in on a forum that I have frequented for over a year with a moderator who antagonized me publicly. I didn’t break any rules or do anything rude, she just likes to pick fights with people and this time I stood my ground. It ended up upsetting me so much that I’m not going back even though I once found a lot of enjoyment there.
Was the moderator a woman? Howabout the boss?
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