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Open Question: What About This Lousy Year?
Ask the collective…
Dear Elsa -
My entire year (2007) seems to be in the crapper. 2006 wasn’t much fun either. 2005 was awesome though.
Does anyone else have entirely bad (or good) years? Does it show up in your charts?
Virgo in New York
Virgo, yes this absolutely happens. I was just telling a friend last night about this guy who came to me for a consult. His wife had left him, took his kids out of state, blah, blah, blah. He was hurting. He was in so much pain and it was obvious via his chart that his life was going to positively suck for the next two years and I had to tell him.
Some people think you should not tell people bad things…. it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy, but I think you should not tell people things are going to be looking up when they are not. They are going to find out you’re full of it pretty rapidly, anyway.
Have you ever had an entirely bad (or good) year? What happened?
30 Responses to “Open Question: What About This Lousy Year?”
1983, here, Sadge Fella, thanks for the reminder. I feel asleep crying every day for months and woke up same way! How the hell do wake up crying anyway? But I did and I did and I did and I did. I still don’t know how I survived that.
oh, for sure, and years are kind of an artificial construct anyway, that’s where astrology comes in, cycles, it’s all about cycles. I think keeping an open mind toward experiences is what it’s all about. Most things can’t be “fixed” quickly, everything takes times because it’s part of cycles that are really big, our combined human destiny.
Lost about five years in the deep morass of depression. Talk about a bummer! I look at pictures from that timeframe and wonder why no one could see how absolutely down I was, every pic looks like I’m a walking tear factory waiting to burst oodles of waterworks everywhere!
2005 for sure. I would rather have been burned at the stake! My throat tightens up just thinking about it.
2006 was a really bad year for me. I moved, and got married, which were both really positive changes, but I also had two disasterous job changes, the slow but unexpected death of a parent with whom I was very close, and a very turbulent time besides. I think that was the beginning of my Pluto Moon transit.
This year has been significantly better.
Let’s see, I have bad years that progress into good ones? Like 2005 sucked ass (the year of the nemesis) continuing into Summer of 2006, when the tables finally turned, she got what was coming from her, and I kept all my real friends. Then 2007 came around and omigods, I thought it was good (got divorced, finally getting some, etc.), then everything went to shit again. Sigh, really, I’d have high hopes for 2008, but gods, I just don’t know if I can hold my breath.
With Jupiter transiting all 5 of my sag planets this year, 2007 was supposed to be mine, according to most. But with Pluto on my moon, uranus on the ascendant, and saturn coming to a square to my sun and opposition to my ascendant, it’s been a mixture. A suicide in my immediate family, anxiety and panic for me, and heartache for all. I wouldn’t say it’s the worst year of my life, I don’t believe I’ve had that yet, but will I be glad when Pluto gets the hell out of sagittarius once and for all.
The beginning of Saturn in Virgo has gotten me into better shape though, I lost the weight that I put on when Pluto hit my moon in January, and hope to stay that way. I’m also becoming more open minded and learning a lot of new things, and went back to school last fall. But it’s just funny/ironic whatever you want to call it that one event overshadows everything good.
yep. they usually end up back to back, or a good year will precede several crappy ones. … i can think of a lot of examples, but at the time saturn was conjunct my venus & opposite my moon, transitting my 8th house, plus pluto was opposite my mercury/sun, and neptune was just starting to square my venus, my life was super intense. everything that seemed to start then morphed and grew, and i didn’t experience any kind of meaningful relief for years (saturn went on to conjunct my sun at the same time as pluto was opposite my sun). at the time it was horrible. but, i learned a lot, and i can take what i experienced on an emotional and intellectual level and use it to keep me out of that kind of nonsense in the future. and maybe someday i can help others in the same situations.
Sadge fella, I spent much of 2003 like you–crying and crying and very lonely. Between Oct 2002-November 2003 I was hit by a car on my bike, missed tons of work as a result, ended up in debt had to give up my home, my favorite Aunt and then Uncle died, two close friends dumped me unexpectedly (after my accident and Aunt’s death), my two other friends left the country (to Australia and Brazil). Then my SO had a horrific accident and almost died.
Incidentally, my SO’s accident was the turning point. He had so many problems related to his injuries (spinal-fusion surgery,post-operation infections, the loss of 3 molars so he couldn’t eat properly for YEARS, complete psychosis from reactions to pain medication). He was SUCH A TROOPER and completely turned his life around. He seemed to think I helped him, LOL! I was in complete survival mode and the only thing I knew is that I had to act positive because both of us depended on it. Him because he was so broken, me because I thought I’d surely die if I didn’t.
The accident was a real eye-opener: be grateful for all you have in this life because it can be gone in a heart-beat.
All this took place as Pluto conjoined Neptune in my 12th House. Talk about clearing the decks.
I hear you, June. I had Pluto opposite my asc/sun at the same time Saturn was conjoining asc/sun. Fuuuun times. Had my heart broken, left my career, left town. But these things needed to change, so I simply shudder when I think back to what it felt like. The ulimate results were good.
An equally hellacious time came years earlier when I had a series of oppositions to asc/sun from Neptune, Saturn, and Uranus. (I’m wondering–is it the ascendant/descendant axis that is so sensitive, or the sun? or both? I can’t separate them since mine are conjunct. Just curious.)
the worst times of my life was my first saturn opposition and then the second saturn square saturn, I don’t remember the first one. I remember crying myself to sleep for months on both these ocasions. I’m having saturn opposite sun and mars now, and it’s not pretty. I have no energy and and blocked by all sides also really confused with neptune on the asc. so i’ll just flow while I can… let go and let God.
saturn transits seem to be the hardest for me. it’s like with saturn I feel a part of me dies and it takes a long time before something good fills it’s place again.
with pluto and uranus transits the good results are more imediate and much more interesting.
saturn->yuck
Late 2002 through early 2006 (yeah, I know…more than one year, but that’s the way it went). Let’s see…
2002 — Corporate job layoff which lost me my job of 5 years, husband diagnosed with brain cancer (he had his first surgery in 2002, second in 2003)
2003 — Divorced, moved out, got an apartment, lost job, lost apartment, moved back in with family (my grandma, who was a mother figure to me as she raised me)
2004 — Grandma sickened and died of lung cancer three days before Thanksgiving (this happened between Sept. and Nov, but she was sick for most of 2003/04 and probably long before that but refused to go to a doctor until she couldn’t breathe anymore). On the relationship front, met two very manipulative individuals, each in their own way, and essentially shut down the desire to get involved with anyone during this time.
2005 — Grandma’s ex-husband (otherwise known as my “other” grandfather / my mom’s dad) dies of lung cancer January 1, mom suicides January 21, I quit job and move across the country in March, get a new job which doesn’t pay the bills, car dies, go into debt to get another car, get another job in an emotionally poisonous office, second car’s transmission dies on Christmas day, go without a car in an area with a piss-poor transportation system for three months. During this time I also tried to sell insurance in addition to doing my regular job, and failed miserably, which I’m not used to doing in a work situation.
2006 — Sister decides she doesn’t feel like keeping in touch (so essentially lost the emotional connection to her too, which still hasn’t recovered), nearly lose job in “poisonous” office because I can’t travel to do sales (which wasn’t really part of my job anyway)due to lack of transportation. Things started to turn around in April (got a new job, got car repaired, started working on repaying some financial obligations which piled up during the previous couple of years) and have gotten better, which is probably a good thing, as people were starting to ask me what I did to piss off God that badly.
I recall writing to Elsa for the first time sometime during this time (I want to say 2005) and she told me I was going through a Pluto transit. That transit didn’t fool around. 
@kashmiri: oh dear, what a list! I sincerely hope that you and your SO are WAY better now and that neither of you will experience anything like that again.
My terrible years were 1984 (Uranus t opposing my sun. Very false friend that did a lot of harm, me dropping out of school, and my beloved grandfather´s death), 2000-2001 (Pluto t opposing my sun with saturn t in conjunct to it. It was like living in between two large grinding stones. Too much stuff to list, the worst thing though was that feeling of anxiety and not knowing what rules to follow. Terrible…fear to be oneself) and 2006 (Uranus t squaring my sun with loads of intense, hurting and demanding stuff happening. One of my kids had severe problems and almost committed suicide, the other had an accident that could have turned him quadruplegic, and that was just part of the package. I still can´t believe I - and my boys, who both had Uranus t opposing their sun at that time, by the way - not only survived, but managed to do a lot of good work in spite of the circumstances. It was like crossfire from all sides and no time to digest, and if an airplane had crashed into my window, I would´t have wondered. I could only go by instinct and instinct alone, and that tought me what to rely on). The first part of 2007 was tough, too, but lately it´s become much better. I´ve changed a lot since last year, but not for the worse, and right now I come to evaluate who I have become and what to do with it. Very interesting.
Thanks, Kundrie that’s very kind. It seems a lot of us can relate to the ‘year of madness!’ I’m glad to hear you and your kids survived!
I wish I had known about transits then…but life is all about timing, and as you say instincts (for me anyway). I’m sure life will throw me a few wacky balls sooner or later (I’m only 30:)
The benefit of surviving is that you learn you can handle what life throws at you. I feel ready for anything these days (kind of like your plane through the window!)
My Saturn return going over a stellium in my 12th (including Saturn) was a shite two years. This year started out crap and frustrating, thanks to saturn transiting my Mars. But it is looking to end much better!
I am thankful to astrology, as it seems to point out the rules of the game, which makes it SO much easier to deal with. More perspective.
the reward of patience is patience
My worst years have been Saturn based, probably because I am stubborn and resist important lessons. They come anyway, of course. My optimistic outlook also works against Saturn’s lessons, so they take longer to sink in.
2004 was my worst year, split from my long term partner, lost my home, my job, my mum had a heart attack, my aunt died, one of my cats got runover, my periods became hell on earth (& still are). I have never cried or wanted to die so much. 1990 was a good year, i floated that year, had some neptunian insights and vibrated positivity. That was the result of a long climb up from depression which started in 85, another not great year.
2000-2003: Pluto transited my 12 house and then went on to oppose T Saturn exactly on my ASC/DC-axis, both squaring my 8th house sun in Virgo (Leo on the house cusp). I am not going to share what I went through, but the lesson of humility had a lot to do with it.
1989-92 and 2005-2006 were pretty good years for me, other than that it’s been quite a rough ride.
Have risen from the ashes like 5-6 times in my 31 years. Thanks to astrology I have the tools to make some sense of it, and am now trying my very best to work consciously. Still, I’m sort of dreading the shift of Pluto into Capricorn, as I have 4 planets in Libra from 6-15 degrees. Between them, they rule 9 of my natal houses:P Just as I was getting kind of comfortable after the transit of Pluto to ASC/Sun. My chart per se is “easy”; friction and change are brought about by outer planet transits…
2004-2005 were the worst years in my young life. Luckily, I learn lessons easily 
Now, about telling somebody the truth about their chart so things are not sugar coated…..
I have Scorpio ASC and I’ve read on 3 sepearate occassions from 3 seperate sources that Scorpio ASC usually marry twice because they are widowed with thier first spouse. This has bothered me to no end! I’ve even cried about it a few times. I know we will all lose people in our lives but the thought that I may be predisposed to lose my best friend KILLS me. I wish I had never read about it…and I wasn’t looking for it, it just was there, as I was reading. Elsa, or anybody, how do you not let this get you down? It’s easier said than done. 
Shell, I have Scorpio Ascendant and I have been married twice, but as far as I know the ex-husband is still alive and kicking, although I must say there were a few times he deserved to see the other side of permanent midnight!
Predisposed is not a certainty, as I’m sure Elsa herself might tell you. Perhaps your best friend’s chart tells another tale? And who is to say that it’s an early untimely death which is I gather what you are thinking. It could merely mean that you’d have a long and fruitful marriage, but that after a vibrant, fulfilled and happy lifetime he peacefully slips away to his rewards before you. What’s wrong with thinking he might THEN go ahead of you to await with eager anticipation your coming to join him once again?
And I would add this: Get in your 40’s and most everyone has been married twice.
I also made a new blog for this question. See above.
My years tend to be either non-eventful or eventful. But, usually the really bad and the really good are in the same time frame.
So, 1997. I got pregnant and had a baby and husband got a new job (awesome) but I had a terrible car accident, my dad and grandma (both of whom I am close to) both had open heart surgery.
2001. My dad left my mom after 30 years of marriage (eventually came back), we were having severe financial trouble. But, I got a new job and was moving forward to realizing a long term dream.
There is more, but in general I have had little bad and a lot of good happen in my life.
This year has been an amazing year but I keep waiting for the bad thing to show up.
The last Saturn transit of my stellium in Libra was 2 1/2 years of not much fun…I was deeply depressed for most of it. I also have the problem of being largely oblivious to the lessons I’m supposed to be learning until I’m hit over the head with them several times, which didn’t help.
Well iv’e always been aware i’m a virgo,although fairly interested in horoscopes most of my life,iv’e never been sure to take it all with a pinch of salt or not.
However after reading all those comments and been to many other sites today,trying to figure out why my lifes upside-down theses days,i’m really starting to believe now.
I’d been so used to life being quite straightforward(never easy,but not too bad at all)for 11yrs aprox until 2004,that is.
Since 2000,life had started improving for me,my wife and our daughter,a better house,job,car etc and she went into labour in 2004 with our 2nd daughter we’d planned.
The pregnancy was going well with no problems(allegedly!),so i wasnt expecting to almost lose her in labour at all.A breach birth that hadn’t been picked up on.Thankfully our child was fine,but left my wife with all sorts of problems and needing medication daily.
The doctors refused to admit her problems were anything to do with the difficult birth,even though it was all hands on deck to save her.
Anyway she’s always been a fighter and a year later,nobody would even know she was on all sorts of medication,no stopping her.
Then out of the blue,taken away by paramedics after having a fit in the street,back out the next day with more medication and leaving me with up to 5 fits a day to deal with over the next couple of months.
Really stressful for us all,and they just told not to worry whenever i kept complaining the medication wasnt working obviously.Luckily i had done my 1st ever 1st aid course through my work months before.
Hurt me so bad seeing this almost daily(often leaving me in tears,feeling helpless)and i couldnt relax at all,just incase,but getting used to it slowly,no choice.I didnt realise that was just the tip of the iceberg at the time.
After 1 or 2 months like that,she got up 1 day and i saw her like never before.Like someone had flicked a switch.She just looked emotionless,no feelings for me at all,but even worse,the kids too,and even less feelings for herself.
A couple of days like that and she was really just wanting to end it all,by whatever means,and shaking all the time,looking so frail.I told her dont be silly you cant do that,but didnt realise it’s not that easy.
So this left me trying to deal with the fits(without the kids seeing this),hide,but give her tablets,as and when required,and hide anything sharp too and hold down my job as the only breadwinner.We just had to get by with some help from family.
She wasnt classed as being needy enough of a bed in a physciatric hospital because she hadn’t ever made a serious attempt to take her life-yet,but fair-enough,there was others out there making more serious attempts to end their life at the time,so more needy i suppose.
I was managing the best i could with her like that for a few weeks,but me not sleeping or eating with worry,family took over and demanded a bed for her really and get medication changed etc.
The 1st time i took her there was heart-breaking,the hardest thing iv’e ever had to do in my life,our 1st time apart since our teens,i felt it was me needing took away at the time.
Funnily enough while waiting we met a staff member i knew through his prior job but hadn’t saw for a couple of years,he said hello,then i heard him ask the nurse what i was in for! lol,i can laugh now,she’s miles better now,but i didn’t find it funny at the time.
She ended up in for 6mnths,just home on passes here and there,and can honestly say it was the worst 6 months of my life,not saying it was easy for her at all either though.
The only thing i’m sure of is that she’s never been the same woman at all since the birth and so hard to live with,making me so unhappy,and reckon she’s as good as she’s ever gona get now,but stable,fine with the kids and doing her own thing,and no fits for over a year now.
So after 13 years,now i’m sitting here racked with guilt,we seperated to divorce earlier this year after 13 years,and it was my choice really.
I was finding it too hard to cope with her wanting a split every other day,before i did.Her ‘mild’ depression mostly to blame,so it’s not all her fault i suppose(good days and bad days),but is it mine that i could cope no more?
The funny thing is,iv’e never really cried much since we split,i think i cried enough daily when she was really unwell and in the hospital.
I wont even go into all the other things gone wrong lately or since 2004,they all seem trivial in comparison,but i may not have saw it that way before.
Really not enjoying living alone now,but i felt it’s best all round for us all and i’m never far away if they need me.
So is 2008 going to be any better anyone?Ha Ha.
Oh gee Ryan, that sounds like it has been terrible for you both!! Like you have both been through the wringer. I’m no astrologer so I can’t say what 2008 will hold for you, but I’m holding good thoughts for you! Hang in there!!
I hope 2008 is a better year for you, Ryan. Hang in there!
Just want to say thanks dreamsAreality and shell.I don’t want to sound like my cups half empty instead of half-full.I suppose it could have been worse and even lost them both,and feel i still have in a strange kinda way.
Anyway,these things are sent to try us,i’m sure,it certainly did that,but am sure some poor bugger having a worse time of it,so i’ll try and stay positive in the meantime.Maybe the stars will do their stuff and sort it all out,making things easier for us all,and any other suffering Virgo’s too,here’s hoping,thanks again.
P.s any astrologers out there who can make sense of it all,i’d be really gratefull.
I’m glad to hear you say this. I was thinking about this yesterday when I looked back at my and my sister’s 2008-2009 solar return charts.
We had gotten them modified (traveled on our bday) thanks to an astrologer (my suggestion of course lol). And really, none of the “wonderful” things she said came “true.” And I didn’t know astrology as well as I do at that point of course so now my family is thinking I’m kind of silly for wasting my money and my sister’s to travel on our birthdays.
But the truth was, after researching solar returns further I realized that aspects don’t change based on location, but houses do. And then I looked at my sister’s, and there’s really no way she could have had a good (her definition of good being money and success and blah blah) year by her standards, and there’s no way I wouldn’t have had authority conflicts and huge money problems with Sun opposite Pluto and Venus squares and Neptune near the MC no matter where I was.
So anyway, I understand why that astrologer didn’t tell me since she was supposedly providing a counseling service, but I wish I’d known better at the time! It ended up being a huge ripoff, and I also think part of the reason she didn’t explain things clearly is that she didn’t know I would actually research it.
Anyway, I’m glad you’re of the school that tells the truth!
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That’d be 2003.
Pluto was on my Sun and Saturn was in my 12th house.
My life became a huge FAILURE.
I spent the entire year crying and sleeping.
So much confusion and physical pain, I thought I’d die. When you deal with this, there’s no place for small things anymore. You only keep the essentials.