Astrology and Suffering: Chart With A Grand Cross vs A Chart O’ Trines

10 Responses to “Astrology and Suffering: Chart With A Grand Cross vs A Chart O’ Trines”

1. hitchhiker72 says on 10/13/07 at 5:00 pm:
   

   I don’t know about the cosmic balance of suffering, but I do agree that those with squares and oppositions seem to have a harder time of life. However, I met a woman whose chart is full of trines, no squares, and she admits that while she has had an “easy” life, it is also one of little ambition or drive. Things comes easy to her, but she’s never had to “achieve”, or tried to.

   My take on it is not that one suffers in place of another, but that suffering can bring its reward. Never facing suffering has its own setbacks, too.

   I don’t really know, but to quote a story I heard from a Buddhist monk once, about the difference between pain and suffering: “Suffering is when you don’t want the pain.” I try to think about that when I’m crossing hurdles.

2. Matthew Currie says on 10/13/07 at 10:27 pm:
   

   Of course not. Never stops me from trying, though.

3. anesa says on 10/14/07 at 2:25 am:
   

   I have a Fixed Grand Cross in my chart involving Sun, Saturn, Moon, Mars, Neptune. Honestly, I have been lucky I’ve never fallen into depression, I’ve never really had to “suffer” on a material plane as not having anything to eat or something like that.

   I’ve gradually learned to live with it thanks to astrology and I’m really grateful for being able to understand where the pain is coming from.

   But oh boy I know about pain that won’t necessarily show on the surface and if one suffering of mine has been easing somebody else’s, and knowing that my pain wasn’t useless, that would be a great kind of salvation, you know.

4. Elsa says on 10/14/07 at 4:38 am:
   

   anesa, what a poignant comment. I am certain my sister is right. I think I can make this very clear and plan to write about this, asap. Hopefully today.

5. wyrdling says on 10/14/07 at 3:46 pm:
   

   if one can learn from it, definitely.

   and sometimes a shared pain can lesson suffering. knowing you’re not alone….

6. Darlene James says on 11/14/07 at 10:43 am:
   

   Hello,
   I just learned that I have a fixed grand cross in my natal chart. All of this is new to me. I don’t recognize the planets involved yet. A friend informed me of the cross but didn’t elaborate on the details. I have endured much suffering and pain in this lifetime. One of the things that I have wondered about was the usefulness of this suffering for myself and my loved ones. I would rather suffer whatever than to have mu children suffer. The suffering in the world concerns me deeply. It breaks my heart. I have to believe that this suffering is meaningful and productive on the spiritual level. I have learned so much and I accept things the way that they have come to me.

7. SaDiablo says on 11/20/07 at 9:19 pm:
   

   The only person I know with multiple trines in his chart is bipolar. He suffers plenty even though “things” seem to come to him easy. Like this: He gets a good job that he’s excited about then suddenly decides said job isn’t going to work and quits to make a living from art. Then gets depressed because it’s not progressing like he thinks it should so he finds a new job he’s excited about and the cycle repeats. Add in multiple hook- and break-ups and his life is the kind of chaos that would drive me nuts. But it seems to work for him, so. . .

8. Crystal says on 6/22/08 at 7:53 pm:
   

   How about a fixed grand cross in synastry?

9. alexandra a. says on 10/19/08 at 9:50 pm:
   

   I have mars conjunct Jupiter in the first house making a trine to venus in the fifth and then all of them coming together at my taurus midheaven/chiron causing two grand earth trines..and Most of my life Has been kinda Miserable..

   My step Brother also has like four Trines, and almost no squares, But i Don’t picture him as being “happy” either.. What I can say is that he is Very kind and loving, and extremely intelligent, and very Gifted at many Things..but i wouldn’t call his life easy..

   My mother on the other Hand, Has a fixed grand Cross.. She Spent most of her life being an angry person and Blaming other people for things ..she didn’t seem to develop the capacity to understand integrative change until just recently, in her fifties.

10. ELLE says on 10/20/08 at 1:13 am:
    

    This is my favorite Zen quote on suffering:
    “Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.”

    Aside from a grand cross are there other aspects, configurations or whatever that spells “suffering”?

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