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Astrology, Violence, Manipulation and Denial In Relationship: Neptune!
Ask the collective…
Back on the idea of violent criminals being aware of what they are doing, (Astrology, Violence and the Collective’s Defense Against Reality…: ) although they are extreme examples what is true at the end of the continuum is generally true in milder form for the bulk of us, for the masses. It’s one of the reasons I am so fascinated with the outer rim of… everything. What you learn out there can always be applied.
So in this case there is a common day application for the idea people are aware of the negative action they take this and this is it:
How many times have I had friends (and I do this myself) ask in regards to someone they are dating… “Does he know what he’s doing?”
The answer invariably is yes. Yes, he knows he is not calling you. Yes he knows he is not supposed to sleep with your friend. Yes, he knows how you feel about blah, blah, blah, but he is doing what he is doing anyway.
And the reason people pretend otherwise is the same reason they pretend people lose their head and kill people. They just don’t want it to be the way it really is so they make up excuses and scenarios to explain the behavior.
And what’s especially amusing (for lack of a better word) is that at best the person concerned is oblivious to the stories you tell yourself. Because if not then they are exploiting your tendency delude yourself about them, using it to manipulate you which drops the whole thing down to a level so uncomfortable many won’t venture there at all.
Do you pretend people are unaware they are treating your poorly? Where is Neptune in your chart?
pictured - Neptune Calming the Waves, 1737, Marble, Musƒ�e du Louvre, Paris
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yes, and when you find out you can’t help but ask yourself why would someone knowingly do something so cruel? and sometimes the answer to that is too disturbing. in an effort to understand we have to cast it into a more benevolent light. what other choice is there?
Yes, with Neptune- 4th house square Venus- 7th house how could I not, but as Saturn approaches the opposition to Venus things are happening.
I did . . . nothing like lots of pain - physical, mental & emotional - as a wake up call. Moon conjunct Neptune in Libra - a natural born “rescuer” (or fool in Love). A therapist asked me what my ideal relationship would be . . eye-opener as it was so not the reality at the time!
“Do you pretend people are unaware they are treating your poorly? Where is Neptune in your chart?”
Fifth house, strongly aspected… and all the time.
I am confused, as stated earlier today - and unlikely it will change any time soon. I do not know whether I am too demanding or he is not treating me right, or whether I am a hag and he IS in fact giving me all sorts of things without me appreciating it enough.
constantly– fourth house scorpio neptune aspecting chiron.
I like what everyone said… and ana’s evaluation is spot on for me as well. it’s hard for me to acknowlege that other people can be so cold, calculating, or cruel. maybe if I can internalize that rottenness can coexist with sweetness I can accept that I am not 100% good or bad myself and quit beating myself up for being human.
for a very long time.. Neptune on 7th house cusp. What’s funny is that sometimes I get carried away thinking and imagining that my good acts and love will magicaly (Neptune) change how they behave. Not once did I think about what I want and what I like.
wwwwaaaaaahhhhhhnnnnnnn. 7th house neptune. The word yes does indeed come to mind.
This is sooo interesting! I too have Neptune in the 7th House (Scorpio)and is highly aspected by most of my other planets. I too can relate to the themes of born rescuer and fool in love. Elena’s comment of magical thinking is a classic in terms of deluding oneself into believing anything and everything. However - I’m an older person now and hopefully more astute these days and far less willing to con myself and let others con me. One can learn (over time) to strengthen ones guard against these pitfalls. Now I’m downright tough on people! as my Neptune is now an accurate antennae for people’s incongruency.
Nope, never. In fact, I have always felt people who treated me badly were fully conscious of it, and simply didn’t like me. Or worse, that I was a loser that deserved it. Depressing eh? Well, I’ve moved beyond that now, for the most part.
Neptune in the 12th house. It plays hard with everything.
Neptune in the twelfth. I definitely have deluded myself at times but I like to think I operate at a higher level of awareness these days. I try very hard to see people for what they are and recognize that their behaviors are their own issue and not necessarily a reflection of me, but they don’t get to treat me badly anyway.
I don’t think it’s so much that I’m in denial that they’re aware of what they’re doing, but more so that I’m agast at the audacity! Don’t they know who I am, dammit?? How dare they!
I’ve got Neptune in Sagittarius in my second house (heh, I have to go do some research now).
Yeah I do, this is a pretty thought provoking post. Neptune in Sag, opps Venus/MC, sqaure Saturn/AC, trine Mercury Moon/Mars/Jupiter, sextile Pluto.