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Lousy Starving Mars in Libra - What About The Flip Side and How Much Control Should One Exert?

Astrology in Real Life…

libra and her sparrow I loved the comments on this blog, “Libra Mars Starves To Death While Being Polite: Is This Smart?” but I was surprised nobody argued the other side of this. The Libra side that is. Because matter of fact he was rude in that situation. If you are going to spend the day with someone shouldn’t you maintain some awareness of their reality? Or is it every man for himself, all the time and if you can’t keep up, you’re trampled. Even the most hardened soldier (Aries) is taught to carry his wounded buddy from the battlefield!

I wondered if I should talk to him about this. Should I tell him he could be more sensitive? Should I traaaaain him?

And I thought it would be all right to do this, in spite of it being controlling on some level. It would be an attempt to dictate his behavior but considering he is highly interested and motivated to partner with me well… I like a chivalrous man. And he might very much appreciate being given the keys to the secrets of keeping ME (Aries) happy and content.

Further, his n. node is in LIBRA in the 7th (the LIBRA) house which strongly suggests his highest calling this life is to become aware of the other.

But does this mean it’s my job to teach him? In the end I decided to forget about all that (at least for now) and adjust my own behavior. Because why teach him when I can learn myself? What’s the better investment, asks Capricorn? ::snorts::

And here’s the kicker: Everything in this post reeks of control every way you turn it And I don’t think there is one thing that could or should be done about it. Fact is, the Cardinal signs exist and I am sure there is a reason. Surely Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn are a necessary part of the landscape. It’s no different than Scorpio with a knife. They can cut you, bay-beee. But heal or kill, it’s all in how they use their resource.

So for the Cardinal signs perhaps the ticket is having command of our command. What do you think?

pictured: Libra and Her Sparrow, Sir Edward Poytner, 1907

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| Posted at 4:28 pm

8 Responses to “Lousy Starving Mars in Libra - What About The Flip Side and How Much Control Should One Exert?”

Melody says on 6/8/07 at 5:17 pm:

You’re on two of my favourite topics, control and relationships - so what can I say. I have to jump in again.

At the risk of offending Aries people, and I have many loved ones in my life, but they drive me nuts with their self centeredness, which really can’t be sugar coated any other way, but also should not be judged because it is necessary energy towards their soul development.

And Aries South Node in the first? Wow! That is why I love astrology. We now know that this guy is just absolutely clueless, so this makes his behavior easier to understand - but that doesn’t mean it is the best behavior for him or anyone else.

This is what I would do. I would express my feelings, letting him know that it hurt my feelings, admitting that I need to be more direct, but also letting him know that it would be very meaningful to me if he could be a little more aware of where I am coming from (because as you said, you have the knowledge that his soul does have this intention).

If this is expressed without too much charge and simply as a request…with no implied or subconscious desire to manipulate or control. then it’s up to him as to whether he wants to change his awareness level out of consideration for someone close - or not. If he chooses not, then you have to just let it go and realize that at least with this guy, you have to be very direct and take care of yourself.

In the bigger picture, if people communicate and give information that others can make their own choices by, then everyone wins at some level. Even if, as could happen in this person’s case, it is that he eventually learns through experience that by not being more aware of the other, he risks losing them.
CD says on 6/8/07 at 5:18 pm:

I should disclose before I go any further that I have a heaping load of planets in Cardinal signs (Aries, Libra, Cancer) and on angles.

I don’t think that your proposed plan of action is all that controlling, necessarily. It doesn’t have to be you dictating his behavior, it could just be you letting him know what you would like. Whether or not he takes you up on it is still his choice.

I think it’s the difference between saying that he is WRONG and needs to change, and saying that you have certain core needs and offering information on what those are for his perusal. The first course of action I would call controlling, the second course I wouldn’t. So, like the stuff about “training” him, that, imho, is controlling. Because you’re implying that your reality is right and his is wrong, under the guise of helping him.

I think the key to it not being controlling is not making the other person wrong. Acknowledging their reality, letting them understand your reality, and then leaving them to make their choice (in this case, if he wants to get closer to you, then he will see what he can do about accommodating this core issue).

Definitely an issue of having command of my command, in my life at least. I would say I succeed about 60% of the time, not a great average but better than 30%!
Elsa says on 6/8/07 at 5:46 pm:

Melody writes:

“And Aries South Node in the first? We now know that this guy is just absolutely clueless…”

“This is what I would do. I would express my feelings, letting him know that it hurt my feelings, admitting that I need to be more direct, but also letting him know that it would be very meaningful to me if he could be a little more aware…”
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Yeah, but if I do that they’ll be no more watching him in his habitat like a science experiment.

::snort::

I may like these problems!! I like all this irritating shit, Melody. Ha ha ha!
Melody says on 6/8/07 at 11:03 pm:

I may like these problems!! I like all this irritating shit, Melody. Ha ha ha!

Sounds like 8th house stuff to me…
Amber says on 6/9/07 at 3:09 am:

Interesting stuff Elsa, and it seems i like the exact kind of irritating shit myself. God knows why…
joana says on 6/9/07 at 3:44 am:

I didn’t mention it but of course he was rude - I mean, you said you here hungry fifteen times, how much more clues does he need?
To tell you the truth, I’d probably sulk and think he didn’t care for me at all. Oh yes, I’d play the victim. Oh dear, we’re so complicated beings. But would he learn from that? Probably not. That’s a funny question that you raise because, when we know someone’s chart, should we rush into the big issues of that person? Can we really ignore the background knowlegde that we have and not focus on the ‘hot spots’? hmmm
Elsa says on 6/9/07 at 3:46 am:

Melody - I think it’s the 8th house but also Jupiter. Running with someone so different from me is my chance to “go native” and essentially experience a different culture, one where you starve.

And though I cop to studying, what I am studying IS the other culture. And it’s so interesting to me I am in no hurry to (if I ever bother) to convert this person to my way of being if that were even possible.

In a way this is an adventure for me and for the record, this was not the only or the first occasion this happened. This happened several times before I caught on… the first time I was nearly crazed with low blood sugar not doubt… I was dizzy but I have to say I was also fascinated because others obviously can and do go long periods without food and no discernible effect!

So I guess when I have exhausted this of all I can learn or glean, I will tell him, “Okay I would like to eat now”.

And there is one more thing:

When I do, he is likely to be embarrassed over having ever starved me so it’s possible he figure this out on his own by osmosis… ie the problem solves itself and that would be something else to watch - the cultures meshing.
Neith says on 6/9/07 at 9:20 am:

OMG! Mars in Libra for sure . . . that Air sign detachment kicking in and observing. You are a terrible woman, Elsa! =big grin= since I have Libra & that nasty Mars in Scorp habit of giving people enough rope to hang themselves . . . there you go!!