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Coping With The Current Saturn Neptune Opposition: The Present Conditions In Your Life - Mars Involved and Attacks Misguided
The Coping with Saturn Neptune blogs - various stories and anecdotes start here: It’s a Hall of Mirrors and We’re All In it
I check my lunar returns. I don’t pour over them or anything, but I load them 6 at a time and flick through them looking for anything striking and what strikes me these days is how each of them… well, every month seems a horror.
And it’s not personal! The sky out there is acute and it’s just going to be this way for one and for all in the near future. And as a matter of fact, I don’t know anyone who is not challenged at the moment and you can just tell that the things they’re challenged with are not going to resolve in the short term.
Now they may cope better on Tuesday then they did on Monday, but it’s as if this Saturn Neptune opposition is morphing time and reality for everyone. No one can control anything. No one can nail anything down and it’s stressful.
“It’s like we’re in the middle of the ocean. We’re just out there and then a big wave comes and we get knocked around. Don’t get mad at me about it. There’s nothing I can do. I can’t stop the ocean. I can’t stop these waves.”
That’s what a pal said to me a few days ago and I think he’s right. There’s no one and nothing (Neptune) you can blame or hold responsible (Saturn) for the current conditions in your life. You also can’t complain too much because the man next to you is suffering and struggling too.
And it gives a feeling of “we’re all in this together” which I think is one of the main things the Saturn Neptune opposition is supposed to teach. Boundaries (Saturn) erode (Neptune).
And with Mars in the picture, here currently I am amused at people who are trying to “fight”. If you are attacking someone, it’s very likely to be your own reflection you’re fighting. That’s you that you’re stabbing, not me. I’m not there, I’m ———> here.
It’s like firing a gun underwater. You aim and shoot, but the bullet leaves the gun, gets caught in the tides and comes back and hits you in the head. Whoops!
Can you relate to the feeling of being tossed around in the tides these days? What’s happening in your world?
skip to Mars and Now The Moon Involved…
pictured: Ivan Konstantinovich Aivazovsky, Among the Waves, 1898, The Aivazovsky Art Gallery, Feodosia, Ukraine
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Definately! Things are going along all good for a few days and then WHAMO! New information, and everything changes and I have to start all over again! Then it’s good for another few days and WHAMO it happens all over again! It’s frustrating to say the least, but now I know that it’s not just me that’s going through this stuff. That’s a comforting thought.
YES!!! It’s been hell lately. Right now I feel like I have no control over my life. I’m usually a pretty responsible person and I seem to do everything last minute and right before the deadline, and I get all crazy and everything seems lost, but then somehow it gets done. Also relationship wise, it’s been a struggle to keep things afloat. I seriously feel like i’ve been drowning lately.
For me, it’s a creative instability. I’ll feel passionately invested in an idea (like getting a tattoo, or starting a new novel), only to find myself doubting the idea only hours later, and not just the regular kind of doubts, but actually wondering about my sanity! Am I crazy that two hours ago I seriously wanted to get a fairy wren tattooed on my shoulder blade, and now I’m totally not interested in that? Am I nuts to think that writing this particular story is a good idea? Have I lost all perspective of reality? Am I losing my mind? Is this some manic period, or hypomania, or some other crazed person that isn’t really me?
So, yeah, I’m having trouble with perspective, and knowing whether or not my enthusiasms are real or false, and whether or not I’m seeing a clear picture of how I should carry on with my creative life in particular.
Or, to put it simply, I feel kind of spazzy and vulnerable.
Yes….and I doubt every feeling and thought that comes into my head and I’m trying my hardest not to be incapacitated. Completely overwhelmed and I can’t seem to figure out what to do about it.
I feel like I’m going insane a lot of the time.
I’m just at the beginning of what I’m sure is going to be long, tough pluto transit (moving into conjunction w/ natal Neptune & opposition w/ natal Moon/Merc conjunction).
Basically I’m busy redefining who I am and what makes me happy. It’s excruciating and half the time I have absolutely no idea what’s going on, but I’m fascinated by the idea of what’s going to come out on the other side of this. It’ll be me, but not me as I currently know myself.
In it for the long haul, and very little idea where I’m going.
The control freak part of me is learning what it needs to know - how to let go. There’s no other option these days. It feels like I’m floating in limbo and not going anywhere, until I look back at where I was a few months ago. I alternate confusion and despair with flashes of brilliant happy inspiration.
Hopefully someday I’ll balance out.
OMG. Yes, I totally relate to everyone’s comments. I can’t get a handle on anything. I need to find a job and keep floating in different areas and directions. Then I get really lonely and discouraged. It’s a mess. I wish that I could come up for fresh air.
My motto lately has been, “What the fuck????!!!!!!”
With Neptune, Mars and Chiron in Aquarius my mentality is fast, speedy and I risk getting over-stimulation every day. I am more sociable and am receiving unusual social invitations from people. Natally I don’t have much air and Aquarius is my 10th house - I recently commenced a part-time job but I have a full-time attitude and risk over-doing it. Meanwhile Saturn is transitting my 4th house - where I am bored and unmotivated - I just want to go out, out,out.
I’m with Kim. I feel like I’m losing it and from the inside out it seems more spectacular than I can imagine! I just can’t seem to get a grip though…just floating along…it’s so freakin’ strange. I’m trying to go with the flow…but my impending pluto opposition to natal venus is in the back of my head. I’m hoping it just manifests as great/fast/wonderful change than bad mojo change…argghhh.
Other than being in a car accident and the lady wanting to sue for it being her fault.. No not really. I dont see that as anything really horrid, it just is.
But, I have old friends coming out of the woodwork like crazy. All from the same area.. and they dont know each other. I think that is really odd. Im thrilled to pieces too. They are people I really love. I havent spoken to some in 7 years.
I have a natal Grand Fire Trine in my chart involving Saturn, Neptune, and Mars. I have learned too much in the last 2.5 years (it’s been my SR, anyhoot). Basically though, I am learning all about Fire. I’ve been burned by it, I have used it, I’ve been run ragged with it…
The goal I am setting for myself is to admit I am a hugely fire-y person and I am going to ground myself with my Taurus Sun and Cap Moon and with the earth backing me up, I’m going to let myself go off like a fire-cracker.
Basically, I have learned I can be super effective without losing my shit. I’m actually doing just fine, but then again I am consciously living in the present and not looking too far forward or backward.
(Which means erasing the nights I have wept in despair from memory).
My life has been out of control since February 16 because of my sister’s broken leg and Dad’s heart condition. It’s been even worse for them, though. It’s a time to just ‘let go and let god’. Frustrating as all hell. And tiring. I had a break this weekend as one of my nieces and a friend pitched in to help out. I slept from 8:30 Friday night until 7 am Sunday morning. And I’m still in a confused fog after that one! LOL
This ‘train wreck’ of an opposition is in the 2nd and 8th houses of my natal chart, but I think it’s my solar return chart for this year that’s been activated - I’ve got a massive stellium starting at Chiron at 13 Aquarius in the 6th through the Sun at 25 Pisces in the 7th, all opposed by Saturn at 19 Leo in the 12th. The only good thing about this progress chart is a wide grand trine from Saturn in Leo to Jupiter and Pluto in Sag to Venus in Aries. I’m counting my blessings, no matter how small, every chance I get
Elsa, every time I read your thoughts on Saturn/Neptune I find myself so grateful for your blog. “Job confusion.” This is my life and has been for many months. The opposition is squaring my sun (in Scorpio/12H), and is kicking my a**. I know what I want to do for money, but I can’t seem to get moving on it. It’s as if I’m surrounded by a thick, but rather pleasant fog, with the hard reality of money troubles waiting for me somewhere outside of it. Good to know there’ll be at least some relief in a few months. Meanwhile, I trudge along. I appreciate your reminders of what we’re up against at this time.
I can abso-frikken-lutely relate. One day, the world is fine and the next is totally screwed and I’m feeling completely insane. Then the next? Totally okay again.
Crazy stuff, and there isn’t anything you can do to stop it.
Tell me about it….right now, I am living with my mom and it seems like everything we agreed upon in the past is now null and void, and I’m being unreasonable for expecting that I have some stability. She changes her mind constantly, but then again, so do I. Needless to say, there is chaos in my household because no one is keeping to their original promises and plans.
Also, I notice when we fight, we are both saying basically the same things to each other…we both feel the same way about an issue, but our different perspectives color them in another light. It’s strange, and I’ve never noticed this trend until May 1st. I always thought it was because we were two women living in the same house. LOL.
Saturn transiting my 9th house is opposing transiting Neptune in my 3rd. Solar return Neptune is in the 9th house opposing Saturn in the 3rd. To top it all off Neptune is sitting on my natal Sun. This seems to have manifested as anxiety and resulting health issues for me. Retreating for solitude seems to help. Has anybody else experienced high anxiety throughout this opposition?
Anxiety, addiction relapse, unemployed, relationship breakup, financials never been so bad. I have Saturn transiting my 1st house opposing neptune conj my mars in the 7th. This opposition has passed over my mars 3 times. Nothing is sticking no job no flatmate no relationships. I am well over this opposition and I should be used to it having Saturn in Pisces at 13 deg in the 7th house so I also had a couple of eclipses conjunct Saturn in Pisces as well. What have I learnt? Let Go and Let Go and Let Go and let Go BUT STILL remain mentally positive and have FAITH…Tough lessons for a control freak but hey who wants to be a control freak? I feel like Im out on a Limb with only the Universe to catch me.