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Violently Attacked? Defend Yourself Effectively At Your Own Risk: Scorpio, the 8th House and the Shadow Side of the Collective
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satori and I, still talkin’…
“Well I have taken out more than my share of perps,” I said. “But in a lot of the scenarios I can think of I am pretty sure I would be struck, frozen in fear with the rest of the masses. And I don’t have any judgment about that. It just is. Some people are cut out for acting in these… ways that are valiant, I guess you could say. And others not. I’m not.”
“I am,” she said.
“Yeah. And I admire people like you who take action. And I pay a lot of attention to this and I think people like you pay a high price for their prowess.”
“What do you mean?”
“Well if you manage to defend yourself against a violent person… if you have an effective defense, you wind up getting dirtied by it.”
“How?”
‘Well, take the woman who has the rapist come through her window. She pops his nut and he dies. Bam. He dies right there on top her. And that guy? Well, he’s probably raped some other women. Odds are he has. Three other women? Four? Twelve? He’s probably been at this awhile. Probably started with his date rape and progressed and he’s just gotten away with it for as long as he has, but not this time! This time he’s deader than dead and this woman did it. Wrong bed, babe.”
“Uh huh. That’s right.”
“Well she’s not a hero, though. See, he’s dead. And we don’t have the death penalty for rape! So now people wonder if this wasn’t just a little bit extreme. They start to sympathize with the perpetrator and you can see how she starts to get dirty.”
“Yeah, that’s true.”
“Yeah, but it gets worse. Just give it a couple weeks or a month or the rest of her life and it really goes dark on her. Because think about it. There are two women and they live across the street from each other. They’re about the same age or whatever. But one of them killed a rapist in her bed,” I said. “The other one has nothing like that in her history. She’s just plain. So who do you think most men are going to want to date? The woman who has nothing or the woman with this event that’s occurred?”
“I see.”
“Yep. She’s just a little dirtied there. It’s like she’s standing in a pool of blood or something and now she has to wonder if she’d have been better off just accepting the rape like everyone else. Like normal women do. You can fight, but just don’t fight too well. Fight too well and you’ll become a scary person to be avoided just in case, because you’re a killer after all.”
“I can see how that would happen,” she said.
“Yeah, it does happen. And this is what happens to Scorpio in general, by the way. And the 8th house. And it’s bullshit! But I’ve been watching this my whole life and I don’t see there is any way to stop it from happening. It’s like a a phenomenon that is always going to happen. I don’t think there is a way to affect the course of this. Anyone who is effective is going to suffer a backlash, period. So go ahead and defend yourself effectively but once you do, you’d better duck. Because one way or the other, you’ll wind up the pariah.”
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That is so true. But it doesn’t matter what you do, you’ll be screwed, because if you don’t defend yourself because that is what you think society wants, you’ll know, deep down, that you should have because you have that power. And then those thoughts will pick at you. And if you do it and then try to hide it, hide behind a normal facade, in plain sight, I think that power starts to eat away from the inside. Better to be true to yourself and pray that you will find someone to shore you up that is grateful that you have that kind of power and respects you for who you are. You and Satori are lucky to have each other.
It works like that even on the less violent levels. I have had to deal with a LOT of sexual assaults, I don’t know why, but I attract a lot of perverts. Mid-day too! In the supermarket or the street - it is ridiculous. The men I am with find this a burden. My current boyfriend says I have ‘tragic sex appeal’. Strange isn’t it that just being assaulted dirties you. I must tell you though that I TALKED a guy out of raping me once (if I have any weapons at all they are words). I made it too repulsive for him. He left.
It is so true, in my experience. Some guy had his dick out in a full subway car sitting right next to me, but out of sight of the other passengers (sneaky prick) and when I told the conductor he told me I was imagining things. I should have just kicked him in the balls but I was scared stupid. I cried all the way home instead and was just a little traumatized. I wish I had acted. If it were someone else I saw this happen to, I wouldn’t have even thought about it, but when it happens to me my mind works differently. It sucks.
But the backlash is there. For sure and unfortunately. But still better to act than to not. Fucking perverts.
I think there’s effective scorpio and ineffective scorpio in these situations. Effective scorpio takes action but seldom out in the open where there is the risk of vilification.
A true scorpio doesn’t want to be exposed to the world when they do something that’s necessary but unpleasant especially if that exposure will make their life harder than it needs to be - that kind of self sacrificing seems more piscean than anything else.
Scorpios deals with the 8th house shadow often from within those same shadowy realms.
And thus a Scorpio is seldom the have-a-go hero, he’s far more likely to be the hidden vigilante.
Makes me think of the law of conservation - i.e., where there is an action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
I have what I call the ’slap reflex.’ Can’t control it. Can’t explain it. You eff with me, I slap you. It’s had me beat; it’s had me saved. No rhyme or reason. 8th house is empty, but 7th house has Saturn (leo) and my natal Saturn is about to enter the 8th house (Virgo) and I am scared.
No rhyme or reason…
I like the idea of nonviolence as a life philosophy…that is until someone attacks first. At that point they have established themself as violent and defending yourself against violence is an inalienable right. If someone hits first (on purpose) aren’t they looking for trouble? Of course they get what’s coming to them when their supposed victim pops their nut. Good for her for standing up for herself
Nor does it help that the whole legal system treats the victim like a criminal. While I was not raped, I recently went through an extremely violent assault. I am just sucking it up and showing up. This guy needs jail time. Nothing about the system makes it easy or calm.
But you hit the nail on the head. I feel dirtied. Somehow I feel responsible but I know in my heart that I can’t be. Ugh. I want this all behind me.
(((Cassi))) Here’s sending you some love and good vibes to get through the muck. I’m sorry that happened to you