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Coping With The Current Saturn Neptune Opposition: It’s a Hall Of Mirrors and We’re All In It
Is That You Or Is It Memorex?
I was talking to an astrologer pal today about Saturn opposing Neptune in the sky and how her life has been impacted as well as events in the collective. Well, mostly she was talking. It was her dime. But to sum it all up, in the end she said she just felt everyone was crazy. “Crazy has never been more popular,” she said. “Do you agree?” This is cf talking and that’s how she talks. Elegantly, that is.
Well I told her I was not sure if I agreed or not. I explained I have strong a strong Saturn Neptune signature in my chart and have been very curious to see how the collective would deal with what I and people like me deal with day in and day out. A disappearing (Neptune) reality (Saturn), that is. Reality isn’t real and un-reality often is.
She asked me to elaborate and I brought up the photoshopped Katie Couric shots as an example. “There’s a picture of a person and you think that’s what they look like, but it isn’t. It’s a hologram. Like that photographer in Israel who was faking the war photos. You are being shown something, but it is reality? Obviously not. And is he the only photographer fudging photos? Doubt it.
I explained the day before I heard about 10 seconds of a Bush interview around Katrina.
“He’s got the microphone in his face and he opens his mouth and all this unreal stuff comes out. The people think the government’s response was fantastic or some such thing. And you stand there hearing this and wonder if it’s real. Is it? Is it real because he says it’s real? Is that how the people feel?”
And you get the idea. Real unreality is everywhere you turn. You think something is real (Saturn) but hey! Maybe not!
And personally, I am in element. All the sudden I am making sense to people! Intuition (Neptune) is real (Saturn). Magic (Neptune) is real (Saturn) The ethereal is now real and the real is ethereal and it just keeps going back and forth like that.
And later in the conversation, I was trying to explain around the circumstances in her life, that she was not going to be able NAIL things down. It’s just not possible. Nail someone to a cross and whoops! Their spirit slipped out, right? Hah! Tricks on you. It’s very slippery stuff. Like catching Casper! Good luck.
And this is very hard for the pragmatic or for those who like control (Saturn). Because you simply can’t execute in normal fashion. And the harder you dig your heels in (Saturn) the more you’ll be undermined (Neptune).
So what about you? Have you noticed your reality (Saturn) shifting (Neptune)?
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Keep reading about the Saturn Neptune opposition…Conversations With Pisces
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Astrologer Robert Brown’s Writings in the Sky and September Horoscopes
Outtakes and Various Other Sundries…
If you missed him last month check Robert Brown’s “Writings in the Sky”. He runs through the various aspects the planets will form during the month and the effects and I love how he makes this information so assessible. In fact, I think he’s in his own class with this.
Also check his horoscopes for September, here. This guy is smooth. I don’t know what else to say.

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Virgo Woman In Love With An Obsessive Married Man
Hi Elsa,
I’ve been in a relationship for 12 years. I am 35 years old and have 3 children. I left my husband last year because he had been cheating on me for the past years, which I got tired of. He has children with other women.
A couple of months ago I met this guy who I’ve been seeing, but he is married. I love everything he does for me and for the kids, He says he loves me but I know it’s not true. He is very jealous and calls me ten times a day to see what I’m doing. He’s been with his wife for 15 years and we see each other everyday and spend time together on the weekends all day.
We tried to separate on a few occasions, which failed. I love him because he makes me feel loved. I wish I could have him but he’s taken. I need some advice how to stop this relationship, because at the end run, someone will get hurt and I do not want to be the cause (or get hurt myself).
Cheated-On Cheater
Dear Cheater,
To be very candid, you seem to have a penchant for forming triangles in relationships, have you noticed? And you sound detached, even nonchalant about it… so I am not sure what your problem is. You love the guy, because he makes you feel loved, though you know he doesn’t love you? Come again?
Look. You’re making very little sense. And for a Virgo, with four planets in the sign, this is pretty scary. You don’t want to cause hurt, but you’re screwing someone else’s husband when you have firsthand knowledge of how it feels to be on the other end of that. Huh?
Not that I think his wife is all that upset. The way it sounds, she is glad to be rid of him and I can’t say I blame her. Who wants some bastard calling them 10 times a day, anyway? You field those calls and she is free to live.
So this is all very curious to me. But this is an advice column and you wrote for advice on how to end the relationship and that much is simple. Call the guy up and tell him you changed your mind. Like this: “Don’t come around anymore, because I’m no longer interested.” Because what do you mean, you “tried to separate on a few occasions, which failed”? How is that possible?
Sorry, but I have to quote Yoda: “Do or do not do. There is no try.”
Good luck.
~~
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Double Pisces Woman Married to Sagittarius Man Working Abroad
Dear Elsa,
I’ve been married for more than a year now. Since the day of our marriage, there has been something or the other coming between my husband and I. Due to his job he’s staying abroad and I’m here in India.
I guess the distance is taking its toll on our relationship. Misunderstandings happen all the time and we end up arguing and fighting even on the phone. At times, I doubt his intentions and feeling for me. Due to this, I am going through a depression. I love him a lot but I’m not sure how long I can manage in this situation.
What can I do change the situation and when will the things improve? Please help me.
Lonely Wife
Dear Wife,
Your husband has a stellium in Sagittarius in the 10th house and with it, a tremendous urge / desire / destiny to travel and work internationally. If you are thinking that one day, he will come home and stay home…well I don’t think this is very likely. As a matter of fact, soon Jupiter with go into Sagittarius and his strong drive to live in the BIG world and move about it freely will be stronger than ever.
Now there is nothing you can do about this, but you can do something about yourself. You can stop waiting on him. You can stop waiting for circumstances to change, and become proactive yourself. What are you doing while he is gone? What interests do you have independent from him and his interests?
See, you’re a double Pisces, so prone towards feeling powerless. But you’ve got an aggressive streak as well. You have an Aries Moon and I imagine you are depressed because what you really are is PISSED OFF.
Do you know that depression is anger turned inward? I imagine you are raging on some level over feeling abandoned and I don’t blame you. This would explain the fights on the phone, yes? But when you hang up, the anger turns in on you and you wind up depressed.
You can cure this if you can get yourself going. You must ACT. I don’t care what you do, but you have got to get your body moving, hopefully with some fervor. See, I don’t mean you ought to take some leisurely meandering walk. Do that and you’re going to want to kill someone. You need to use your “raw male energy”… your Aries and you need to do this every day so it does not back up on you.
I bet you go a long way towards resolving your depression. It will get you out of the house, meeting people, expand your world, etc. etc. So that’s my advice. Get active and don’t mess around. You want kickboxing not knitting circle, okay? Make yourself a life, because your husband is going to continue to be and do just what he’s doing because it’s authentic to who he is. It is up to you not to be his victim.
Good luck.
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Synastry vs Composite Charts - Round Two
Just Blathering…
A reader asks:
“In your style, do you feel composite charts are more, less or just as significant as synastry? I know that every astrologer has a different style & preference. Just wondering what your take on it is. Are they both different but hold just the same weight of importance?”
I think they are both significant but for different things. Synastry shows how two people interact. She feels thwarted by him. He feels supported by her. They butt heads all the time, or whatever.
A composite chart on the other hand, shows the relationship functions. It’s a hypothetical! Because you can put charts of any two people together and if there is no real life relationship, it’s meaningless.
That said, I love composite charts and provided a relationship forms, I can think of a few ways where they may be a better indicator than synastry of how to people are going to fare.
And you see this in life all the time. You see couples where the synastry is so-so but the relationship rocks and if you check the composite…it’ll be blatantly obvious why. And I have an idea why this is.
See, a chart is a map of a person’s energy. And taking two charts and comparing them is like taking two people and comparing them. And it’s supposedly very precise and analytical which is of course ludicrous!
“Okay. Her Saturn is on his Sun, so she’s going to oppress him!” the (beginner) astrologer announces. Say what? How do we know that? How do we know how this person uses their Saturn? How is Saturn aspected in the chart? Is it well aspected or involved in a train wreck with Venus, Mars and that dwarf planet (::winks:: :-)) Pluto? Don’t you think this is going to impact what that gal does with her Saturn? I do. It gets very complicated!
And this is (one of the reasons) why synastry to the letter and by the book sometimes just does not compute. Where I find that the composite is what it is.
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I hope this helps! I’ve written on the topic before -> here. And perhaps some others will come on board and share their experience and expertise.
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Mercury in Aries vs Mercury in Libra, and Cardinal Signs in General
Regarding my showing up at that party…catch up here.
We’re on the phone…
“Yeah, I showed up at the party, but here’s the thing. All we ever did was everything we weren’t supposed to. Whatever line there was, we crossed it! We broke every single rule….we were completely lawless and then you tell me not to come to a party, and what do you expect? Of course I’m coming. I’m not taking orders from you!”
“I know, I know. You showed up all right. In that green flight jacket and you were drenched! And you were wearing your yellow pants! You had on those yellow pants and everyone felt sorry for you. Poor Elsa!”
I laughed.
“And I just wanted one night with the boys. Because we spent all our time together as it was. We were together night and day. Not that we didn’t have fun. We had all kinds of fun, but my boys were on my ass. Why are you with Elsa all the time, they said.”
“Yeah.”
“So I wanted this night off, but anyway you walked in and you were just dripping. In those pants of yours with that jacket I gave you. Remember that? It was green. And everyone felt sorry for you, because you were standing there drenched.”
I snickered.
“And I tried to tell them, don’t feel sorry for her! She could have stayed home. She was supposed to stay home. It’s her own fault! But oh no! We all feel sorry for her. Poor Elsa, she’s dripping wet. And everyone thought I was the biggest asshole in the world.”
I laughed. “Well I shouldn’t have done that but on the other hand, it was my nature. You should not have been surprised. I don’t like being told what I can and can’t do and either do you! And you’re still like this…”
Ten minutes later, he’s talking about his (adult) son. Who has achieved a high degree of status…
“He told me not to wear my hat. Don’t wear that John Deere hat of yours in New York!”
I roared.
“I told him I’ll wear anything I damned well please in New York…”
Ha ha ha. We both have strongly Cardinal charts. Nobody can boss the bossy, you know? It just doesn’t work.
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Cancer Frets Over Venomous, Difficult Gemini Girlfriend
Hi Elsa Elsa,
I’m pulling my damn hair out. I’m in a relationship with a Gemini and I’m a freakin’ Cancer. Ugh. I hate being a Cancer in this relationship!
I don’t know how to argue with her. She coolly spits out her venom while I lose it and flail my arms. She insults and lashes out every one of her fears on me. She is so damn stubborn, jealous, selfish and controlling.
She is scared of love and life and SELFISHLY proclaims her disappointments and my shortcomings. I work two jobs trying to save money to move back closer to her but she doesn’t see this! She thinks I am just “broke” all the time. Uhhh it costs money to save money. Hello?
But I forget. How silly am I? She needs to be spoiled and taken on lavish outings. And I’m supposed to know this already, even when she says she likes supporting my money saving. SHE DOESN’T.
She thinks my vague and indirect Cancer ways are equivalent to lying. Her possessive, jealous rages are insane and scary! They’re enough to cause an ulcer. I think I have one.
But… I am a Cancer. My claws are embedded deep and it’s tough to let go. My cancer tears are a deep well of worry.
How do I show a Gemini my heart and earn her trust?? There’s gotta be a way to make this work!??? What is the solution here!? Any advice????
Frantic and Fretting Cancer
Dear Frantic,
Yikes, man. You’ve got your hands full, don’t you? And apparently you like it. And I am not sure what I can tell you besides this is this gal’s nature. And yours.
By that I mean, she has Venus and Mars in Aries, so she is going to want to fight. She is not interested in wimps. And you may be a Cancer, but you have an Aries Moon, did you know? So what looks like “home” to you is… her! So sorry, hon.
::smirks::
And her Gemini Sun? Well you have Venus in Gemini. Isn’t that funny? So who do you love? This flighty chick!
Further, she’s a Virgo rising and what do you have in Virgo? One, two, three, four planets!! Ha ha ha ha!
And you are a Sagittarius rising and she has Sagittarius Moon and I guess you’re getting the picture here. Obviously there is a real affinity between you two. Some of these connections are nothing less than superb. However, the pathology is flying in both directions and it’s thick. It’s thick enough you’ll most likely need a referee (a therapist) if you want to make it long term. And while that is outside the scope of this blog, I can offer this quick diagnosis.
She has Jupiter conjunct her Sun and thinks she know the TRUTH. She also has a Sadge Moon and thinks she can sense the TRUTH. However, Gemini is Gemini (lies all the time) and Neptune is conjunct her Moon, a combination that is known to be evasive. And she may very well be projecting the lying thing, since this is what people with oppositions in their charts do! Live one side and project the other that is.
And you? Well you have a stellium in Virgo and you want to FIX everything. Including and especially this gal. And let me tell you something. Gemini doesn’t want to be fixed. It’s not interesting to them, okay? And if you bore a Gemini and you’re history.
Sadge likes being fixed even less if this is possible! Because Sadge is inflated, okay? They think they are GREAT to begin with…. so you see the problems here. And obviously they will persist unless both of you get your asses in gear.
Good luck.
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The Universe Delivers - Sagittarius Sun With A Scorpio Moon
Just Blathering…
I was talking to a pal today. She’s a Sagittarius with a Scorpio Moon…
“You know that neighbor of mine…” she said. She has a neighbor who is just plain nasty. Pissed off about nothing. Causes problems. “Well the other day one of her kids came over. And she started yelling. She was screaming. You motherfucker! Where the fuck were you! You let that shit happen…she was screaming at the top of her lungs. This was an adult child. Confronting. And the husband came out. He was goint to try to get in the middle. Shut the fuck up, she yelled. This is none of your business! You stay out of this! And she just kept screaming like that for…five minutes at least. Damn you, you rotten bitch motherfucker!! They were out in the yard, yelling and it was loud as hell.”
I laughed nervously. “Cripes!”
“And I don’t usually pay things any mind. But believe me, I had my ear to the window listening to every word.”
“Well yeah. After what they’ve pulled. Hearing this…well it’s must have been a gift from God for you.”
She laughed. “Well, yeah. It was. It was a gift from God.”
“And a Scorpio wet dream too” I added. “Getting to hear that.”
“Yep, that too. It was a Scorpio wet dream too,” she said brightly.
We both chuckled long and hard.
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Mercury in Aries vs Mercury in Libra - Redux Again
Aries and Libra - These signs oppose!
He (Mercury in Aries) writes recalling our relationship from many years ago:
This is the fight that broke us up then…. It is so stupid! I wanted to go to a party with my friends, alone this time. You wanted to borrow the bike for work or something. I said okay, but do not show up at the party. I wanted to go in a car, and I didn’t want to ride the bike. In fact I wanted to go in Chuck’s MG midget.
You promised you would let me go. Then low and behold, who shows up at the party… Elsa! It rained that day, and you were drenched. You wanted me to ride the bike, and you ride in the MG.
Well I was pissed, because really, you were checking up on me! You couldn’t just trust that I loved you. Well I was looking like a big asshole in front of my friends refusing to ride the bike, and poor Elsa, and everyone loved you, and hell I was pissed OFFFF! I broke up with you then! And it lasted a while!
I respond (Mars Mercury in Libra):
You know…when someone tells you not to show up at a party you’ve got to wonder why. Especially when they like to make you jealous…inflame you in the first place. So I’ve got to show up. I’m not takin’ orders from you! What am I? A patsy??? Some kind of patsy wimp that is going to let YOU dictate to ME. Bullllllllllllllshit.
~~
And I think this is so funny. I’d have been dripping wet…bam, bam, bam on the door of the party. What a fuckin’ idiot! It cost me my boyfriend - oh well!! More of them to be had!!! So what if he got pissed off? No problem!!!!!!!!!!!!
:snickers:
::shakes head::
It’s all so…machismo! In both directions. The control freak trying to control the control freak!
So what about you? If your boyfriend told you not to show up at a party, would you make yourself scarce? Or would you damn the torpedoes and break the door down?
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Gambling Addict Husband Is Depressed, Second Marriage On The Rocks
Dear Elsa,
I’m only 34. After I got married, my husband changed. He is a gambling addict with severe depression, and his sex drive is nil. I’m torn between remaining a dutiful wife or letting go of our marriage of 3 years. Even with counseling, our home isn’t a pleasant place and I’m battling fearfulness of failure & loss.
Why can’t I leave my marriage? I can’t figure out if it’s out of loyalty, fear, spiritual reasons or emotional problems. I’m really trying to understand if it’s me AND him (it’s my 2nd marriage) or just him. Will it ever get any better or should I painfully leave him in my past?
If I do this, I’m VERY FEARFUL of another emotional mess down the road. Thank you for ANY advice as I will seriously think on it.
Second Marriage
Dear Marriage,
Well, you sound perfectly miserable. I’m sure I would be same if I were married to a depressed man who threw our money away, while leaving me to shrivel up and die on the vine in the bed.
As to whose fault it is… well obviously, you have a very difficult partner here. However it was you who picked him. And why is that? I’ll tell you what. You may as well stay until you can figure this out and with that I can probably help.
You have a multiple indications of a difficult love life in your chart and I don’t say that to depress you. If anything it should validate you, because it’s not like its news, right? You know this. So here’s my advice:
Forget about his gambling problem, his sex problem and his depression. These are all his problems to solve. Instead, try to focus on your own problems, which are easily as severe and debilitating as his.
Things like the fact you are crippled and paralyzed with fear. Fear that this is all you will ever have. Fear this is all you deserve. Fear of being judged. Fear of moving forward to quickly. Fear of not moving quickly enough. Fear of what people you know will think. Fear of what people you don’t know…people who you haven’t even met yet, will think in the future if they find out you are twice divorced.
And let me tell you something: you can do this and you can thrive. I know this for sure because I am a fear-based person too. And I was in a situation like yours once. Check this:
I was married for all of about 2 months when it became very apparent I had made a big mistake. And I thought like you, I’m sure. What am I going to do? Stay three years and make it look good on paper?
But then one night my husband came home from work. He’d seen a bumper sticker on his way home from work. “I’m going to get you one,” he said.
The bumper sticker?
“Men Are Assholes And I Married Their King”
“Oh really?” I said. I filed for divorce a week later. Which means I had an eight week marriage, give or take.
That was about fifteen years ago and you know what? Big deal. If anyone wants proof of my audacity, well there it is. If anyone wonders if I am going to be married to an asshole… well now they know. And it was embarassing, I’ll admit. But it beat the hell out of wasting three years with that guy, you know?
Good luck.
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