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Stabbed In Back? No Problem! An Addendum
Just Blathering…
About this stabbing…and keeping the knife, my friend satori thought I should clarify so I am going to. She’s a Pisces, see. And I hate to ignore Pisces because I think they know something I don’t.
So anyway, I am referring to the two posts that start here. And I am referring to a comment someone made, about holding on to the knife, as if were some kind of trophy.
I can’t find that comment now, so either Mercury is retrograde, or the comment was made on a different blog, or both of those. But in whatever case, I don’t think you should keep the knife. As a matter of fact, I specifically said opposite that. I don’t believe in hoarding energy in general. Like money!
I don’t understand people who hoard their money. People who have more than they could spend in many lifetimes and they still gather more. What the fuck?
Henry wrote this:
Letter to Fichy May 7 1959
“… My brother is a Presbyterian minister and I went to his services while at his home but the material splendor always seemed to crowd out a real spiritual atmosphere. And as I grow older, my conscience bothers me every time I buy something like a typewriter or a radio. It seems that it might be better to do without these things and give the money to those who need it for the necessities of life. Have you ever felt this way? Actually I think we should acquire only those things that aid us in serving our fellowmen better…”
Now growing up exposed to this kind of belief system…well needless to say, I absorbed this. But I’m not Henry. I obviously have an edge. I sort of live where Henry would fear to tread. So all this violence is part of my life. “Stabbing” is part of my life. But in no way would I keep the knife. Does Hank Williams keep the knife? Of course not. He transforms it into a song!
Now personally I believe in traveling light. Light as possible. So do I want to drag a sack of knives around? To the grocery store? Into the bed with my lover? Of course not. I like magic. I like making something sweet of something sour. I like being tricky, as opposed to having notches on my bedpost. So I just wanted to make this clear, okay?
::trots off::
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Is what you’re suggesting keeping the energy and discarding the form? e.g. Someone has a Venus-Pluto opposition and spends their whole life rejecting the Pluto end. Then some manipulative jerk comes around and “stabs” them in the back. Well that person can keep the Pluto and choose not to stab anyone else b/c they’ve been given the opportunity to integrate the Pluto energy in a better way.
p.s. I’m going to be overly simplistic here but the way I see it, the real point in having obscene gobs of money (not that I have obscene gobs) has absolutely nothing to do with buying things. The power of certain levels of wealth is in having social status, social priviledge, and MOBILITY, something that many citizens of developed nations - who can cross most international borders w/a mere passport - can take for granted. Having gobs of money is also a MAJOR buffer against all kinds of discrimination e.g. homophobia. So in this sense, hoarding money is hoarding energy yes, but accumulating it to a certain levels creates energy flow. Really, the ability to purchase material goods is money’s lowest, basest and least powerful function.
p.p.s. By mobility I don’t simply mean crossing national borders, that was just an example.
Ooh, I love this! The alchemy of the knife!
isthmus - you write an intruiging post. Excuse my very simplistic understanding of astrology here.
What exactly do you mean by “rejecting the Pluto” ? Versus “integrate the Pluto” ??? Do you mean someone who ignores sex? Or death? Or?
*lol*
The mental images I got while reading this were… amusing, to say the least.
I think this is one of those things you either incorporate while young, or it remains a mystery - something you *understand,* but can’t *feel*. Lord knows I’ve tried to explain similar things, and it just doesn’t translate well.
hahah I do love this explanation of stabbings, great metaphor
C, as I understand it, Pluto’s energies can be very challenging. It’s beyond sex and death and into passion and the primeval darkness in the self and destruction and rebirth and transformation. With Pluto nothing is light because when you’re dealing with such major forces (and collective planets) you’re dealing with things that are easily overwhelming and that are much greater, much more powerful, than any individual human being.
Now Venus is a personal planet. Venus likes to feel good. Venus likes to have fun. Venus want to go out on a date and encounter pleasantries and take things lightly.
And with aspects like oppositions when the planetary energies are difficult to combine we often end up identifying with one end and projecting the other.
Say I have a Venus in the first house opposed to Pluto in the 7th. I am charming and pleasant and pretty and light. I enjoy being a social little butterfly but I’m not conscious of the fact that there is a part of me that is very deep and very powerful and very dark. A part of me that can be very destructive of self and others, that can manipulate me, that can suck me down and down and draw me into all kinds of murk and uncertainty. I want to remain on top of this ocean, having a nice cruise and drinking daiquiris but there is a part of me that want to grab hold of me and drag me down to the deepest, coldest part of the sea where all the sharks and uncertainties are and where I may not know how to get back to where the shiny shimmery surface is.
So I spend as much time as possible avoiding those frightening depths and darks until through my seventh house, say the relationship I am in, Pluto comes to get me in the guise of other people. A lover who betrays me, who stabs me in the back, who drags me down into destruction and rebirth and suffering. Who is in fact someone else carrying my Pluto for me and doing Pluto to me.
should I recognise this, should I see the Pluto in myself, should I work on ways of making it a part of my Venus and having my Venus leaving the cruise to do a bit of diving… well the chances are I probably won’t need external people to mirror my own secret inner nature to me anymore. Pluto will be an element of my relationships because I have a Venus-Pluto, but Pluto will no longer be the face of the person who comes to hound me and ‘get me’.
Does that make sense?
Traveling light & magic. That’s why I read your blog.
Nia,
That was an excellent explanation. The metaphor helps. Now I just have to apply to the house meaning (I think!)
THANKS
– running off to find an astrology book about the houses–
walking on the abyss of hell and traveling light and magic at the same time is quite a balancing act. at times this blog is a good mirror - a good partner.
sounding good Elsa!
C, Nia gives a great example of what I meant. Thanks Nia!
That was well put Nia….Cheers…!